Wizard

Mar 3, 08 - 9:49 AM

Roath Basin

Vague message:

A large yellow 'crane type/drilling thing' has appeared this morning on Roath Basin (on the fenced off land across from the Norwegian Church).

I can only presume that some redevelopment work is starting there...

Cardiff Ian

Mar 3rd, 2008 - 10:36 AM

Re: Roath Basin

Yet another project where information is thin on the ground! It's prompted me to do some digging on the internet where I found these minutes relating to Cardiff Bay that provide some points of interest (source - Vale of Glamorgan website of all places!)

Cardiff Bay Advisory Committee

Hypercelt

Mar 3rd, 2008 - 11:45 AM

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glad to see the news about the waterbus commuter service and the opening of the Mermaid Quay to Barrage walkway/cycle way, although haven't seen any evidence of work on this.

Kyle

Mar 3rd, 2008 - 3:31 PM

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Let's hope it's all part of the Igloo run development. With all the talk about Havannah Quay, Cardiff Waterside, Bay Pointe, St. Davids 2 etc. there's been very little talk about this for a while.

Is it really happening ? The information in the link below has been around for quite a while with next to no news since. It would be great to see the 1,000,000 sq foot of commercial space start happening as well as the 1,000 proposed new homes but with all the other commercial and residential activity proposed or currently being developed in the city is this actually feasible ? What do you all think. I'd love to see a Cardiff equivalent of Manchester's Media City happen at Roath Basin.

http://www.igloo.uk.net/project_detail.php?name=regeneration_cardiff_tiger_bay

Kyle

Mar 3rd, 2008 - 3:43 PM

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Other than articles going back to 2006 and the Terry Farrell website below there's not much around.

http://www.terryfarrell.co.uk/projects/mixing/mix_roath.html

Wizard, let's hope what you have seen on the site is the start of this.

DRJones

Mar 3rd, 2008 - 4:21 PM

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Was down the bay yesterday, and there seems to be some activity around Roath Basin. The little cottage/building opposite the tube was all wrapped up and theres other signs of progress going on.

DRJones

Mar 3rd, 2008 - 4:32 PM

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incidently, the visitor centre (the tube) states in the visitor's video thing that this project has begun...

Kyle

Mar 3rd, 2008 - 4:45 PM

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I hope you are right. It would be nice to see what they are starting with first as this is a very big mixed use development. It would be nice to see some more detailed designs of it if they are starting.

Perhaps with part of it being funded by the WAG they may be starting with a technium building ?

Spence

Mar 3rd, 2008 - 4:46 PM

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Presumably the new foot and cycle bridge connecting the Britannia Park area to the other side of the basin will be the first project. Well it was always intended to be anyway, otherwise the Bay walk could not be completed. Maybe that crane/drill has started boring the foundations?

Zach

Mar 3rd, 2008 - 5:07 PM

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Was also down there on Sunday, I thought it looked like the plinths for a new bridge being built behind the fencing. The bridge is probably already built and sitting in some steel fabricators somewhere.
In the dead of night in a week of two, it will just appear.
Come to think of it as I'm typing, there is a white marquee on the land opposite roath basin with lots of steel frames in it??

Wizard

Mar 3rd, 2008 - 9:49 PM

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I was told ages ago that the marquee was something to do with a boat.

Also, the yellow crane thing that I reported at the start of this thread didn't seem to be there when I walked past in the way home!

wizard

Mar 9th, 2008 - 8:33 PM

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I noticed today that a bridge has actually been installed. Maybe that's what that crane thing was doing when I walked past a week ago.

The bridge looks very erm functional! I hope that it is a temporary structure. It does not look like the Studio Bednarski bridge which we are supposed to be having.

Some other snippet of info on the Roath Basin development on Cardiffandco weblink:
http://www.cardiffandco.com/news/detail.asp?id=23

Kyle

Mar 11th, 2008 - 12:27 PM

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Cardiff & Co are at MIPIM 2008 in France this week with Igloo homes as per their website. We should see some press coverage of their plans for Roath Basin at some point this week hopefully. I hope we'll see some decent plans and renders.

Kyle

Mar 12th, 2008 - 4:26 PM

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Still no news on this even though Igloo homes and Cardiff & Co are apparently in Cannes this week. There's plenty of articles on Propertyweek.com regarding MIPIM 2008 for Birmingham, Liverpool, London and some non-UK cities but naff all on Cardiff and in particular Roath Basin just yet.

I was kind of hoping that the developers behind Havannah Quay might have appeared at this with Cardiff & Co as well but they are clearly not in a position to be marketing the scheme.

Kyle

Mar 17th, 2008 - 5:58 PM

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I sent an email at the end of last week to Igloo Regeneration asking if anything happened at the MIPIM last week.

I've just had a reply from their Development Director. See below :

Thank you for your email.

The Roath Basin project was unveiled to the property industry at the MIPIM Property Conference last Wednesday. Details of our proposals are available on our website (link provided below). The project is in its early stages at the moment, with first occupations planned for late 2010. We are committed to an ongoing programme of community engagement and I would welcome the opportunity to involve you in that process, or answer any specific queries that you may have.

Cardiff Ian

Mar 17th, 2008 - 6:16 PM

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Good to see that they've replied to you but I guess the link points to their website which says first occupation is in 2008. Things have obviously moved back by a couple of years...

James

Mar 17th, 2008 - 10:19 PM

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whats the link?

Kyle

Mar 18th, 2008 - 11:17 AM

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It's just the Igloo homepage. If you look at the list of projects there's one under the name of Tiger Bay which just shows the same picture of the bridge...sadly no images of any buildings.

http://www.igloo.uk.net/

marbo

Mar 18th, 2008 - 11:50 AM

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drove through the docks the other day, and there's a new tarmac path going from the new bridge to the barrage. It's all fenced off from the docks/roath basin area, but looks pretty finished, so it can't be too long till its open and you can walk from the inner harbour to the barrage

Kyle

Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:52 AM

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I'm impressed by Igloo. I've had a reply from their Development Director. He emailed me two powerpoint slides as well which I will try to attach.
I'll email them to Paul as well in case I don't work out how to do that properly.

Kyle,

I attach some unreleased images that have recently been reviewed (and well received) by the Design Commission for Wales.

Off-site highways improvements and advanced preparation works are programmed to commence within the next few months, with public realm works starting early 2009 and residential building later in 2009.

Regards

Mark Hallett

Development Director

Igloo Regeneration

Kyle

Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:55 AM

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Okay, so a simple cut and past doesn't work. Can someone send me instructions on how to paste into a post please ?

On the news from Igloo, I know they aren't actually starting construction until next year but there is some preparation work to be done I guess, plus by the time they start hopefully we'll be over the housing slump and financial market rubbish that's going on.

Wizard

Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:58 AM

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It's both impressive and a hallmark of a professional organisation to get a courteous reply to an email.

Wizard

Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:02 AM

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Kyle - if you forward them to

forwardcardiff@yahoo.co.uk then I will try to sort it out.

Kyle

Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:39 AM

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Wizard, forwarded the email I sent on to Paul.

The two slides are only masterplan images, but it's better than no update at all which is what we seem to be getting with most other proposed major developments in the city.

Cambo_Dai

Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:44 AM

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Can you forward to david_@ifs.org.uk

Cambo_Dai

Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:44 AM

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oops I mean david_p@ifs.org.uk

Kyle

Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:48 AM

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Cambo, it's just sent to you.

As mentioned above, don't expect too much from the slides, I'm just happy that SOMETHING is happening !

Wizard

Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:55 AM

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PHASE 1

and PHASE 2

jantra

Apr 9th, 2008 - 11:21 AM

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can damianevans@esquare.co.uk have htem as well...

ooh..forward cardiff has something to discuss as the May meeting (which will go ahead as myself, Cardiff Ian and Hypercelt are all attending - any others perhaps!)

URBANO

Apr 9th, 2008 - 11:25 AM

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Looks quite encouraging. Suitably steet patterned, rather than out of towney.
What about phase 3 in the middle, though?

Karl

Apr 9th, 2008 - 11:46 AM

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Assuming it's to scale the development looks to be pretty big - bigger than Capital Waterside/Scott Harbour combined. Bring it on!

Wizard

Apr 9th, 2008 - 11:59 AM

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Good point - what's is the middle ! Maybe the Adventure golf course is going to make a comeback - bigger and 'better'!!!

Kyle

Apr 9th, 2008 - 12:13 PM

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I would have thought that they want to see how Phases 1 and 2 progress first. What about an aquarium ?

Spence

Apr 9th, 2008 - 12:25 PM

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Waterfront park maybe?

Cardiff Ian

Apr 9th, 2008 - 12:28 PM

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I really hope the BBC move down here - it would give the development some momentum and also hopefully a landmark building.

Kyle

Apr 9th, 2008 - 1:53 PM

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It would be great to see the BBC down there but judging by what their director of development said it's going to be residential first at the end of 2009.
Considering that phase 1 is parallel to Adventurer's Quay that's not suprising. Perhaps phase 2 nearer to the waterfront is going to be commercial and include the technium that has been talked about ?

Looking at the two gaps there must be at least four phases to this. There's the large amount of land between phases 1 and 2 and then there's the land surrounding the various dry docks parallel to the visitor centre and out towards the bay itself and the barrage. Judging by the masterplan they are being built on as well...kind of perfect for the leisure element of the development after the earlier phases have kicked in I guess.

Wizard

Apr 9th, 2008 - 3:12 PM

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It's the other way around - phase 1 is over the Inner Harbour and phase 2 is by Adventurers Quay.

If I'm not mistaken, the original plan was to have a 'Gene Park' on the site (it was actually in the middle bit if I recall correctly). I don't know what has become of this 'vision' for the site.

URBANO

Apr 9th, 2008 - 3:57 PM

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Perhaps it was a Green Park, not a gene park; just a park. Why else the mysterious gap between phase 1 and 2 ?

Kyle

Apr 9th, 2008 - 4:41 PM

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URBANO, there are three pictures altogether. Wizard has posted the images from the two that show the first two phases.

There is also a "masterplan" slide that has the overall scheme with buildings in between phase 1 and 2, plus buildings around the various dry docks towards the visitor centre and barrage. I suspect that these parts may form further phases perhaps ?

Kyle

Apr 9th, 2008 - 4:50 PM

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Wizard, I'm sure phase 1 is at the back near AQ and phase 2 closer to the inner harbour. Not that it really matters because it's all way off yet.

If someone can send me instructions I'll post all 3 images of them.

URBANO

Apr 9th, 2008 - 8:47 PM

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Thanks Kyle

It was a(not very funny) joke

URBANO

Apr 9th, 2008 - 8:57 PM

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The 3 inmages would be very intersting and helpful.

Wizard

Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:17 PM

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You're right Kyle.
I mis-labelled the pics above. phase 1 should read phase 2 and vice versa.

Now that's got the project off to a flying start!

Kyle

Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:41 PM

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Sorry URBANO, I've been missing most jokes today...must have left the sense of humour in bed...that or last night's bottle of red !

So, how do I post an image then ? Anyone ?

Kyle

Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:43 PM

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FFS, I can't even post correctly...I meant to say "...or last night's bottle of red has messed me up more than I though"

Wizard

Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:58 PM

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I post photos by firstly uploading onto flickr (or a similar photo sharing website) then hyperlinking them according to the link that they have created.There is however probably an easier way!

I hope that makes sense!

URBANO

Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:16 PM

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Kyle- thans very much, but never any reason to apologise to me!

wizard

Apr 11th, 2008 - 2:08 PM

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The final one which I forgot to post a few days ago

Kyle

Apr 11th, 2008 - 2:29 PM

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I really hope that the buildings over the dry docks are reserved for food and drink units as the views back to the inner harbour from them could be very very good. I guess they will come last depending on how the rest of the scheme works out. I'll leave it a while probably until the groundworks start, but I think I may email Igloo again in the future to ask about the plans for the later phases.

Me

Apr 14th, 2008 - 6:37 PM

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Cardiff already has a 'gene park', based at the Heath. It employs ten people, most of whom are mainly based in other organisations. There has been a trend in modern bioscience buildings for eye-catching architecture, but they always require massive external funding and are built in places that already have a large scale bioscience sector. I'm not sure Cardiff has this, beyond the university. I suspect if cardiff were to have a new centre it would be located closer to the uni - co-location of centres, public and private, is another big thing in bioscience buildings right now.

A few examples:

Centre for Life, Newcastle:

barcelona centre for regenerative medicine:

Institute for cell and molecular science, London:

And the biggest by far, the Biopolis in Singapore:

I dont think there is the momentum in Cardiff right now to have a largescale new build bioscience centre at Roath Basin, as much as it is a nice idea...

Wizard

Jul 30th, 2008 - 11:28 AM

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I had a letter through the post yesterday (I live in Adventurers Quay)stating that a company called Dawnus Ltd were going to start (on 4th Aug I think) the first of a 2 phase programme of works to upgrade and alter the road network entrance to Roath Basin at the back of Adventurers Quay.

So finally some work is to commence on the Roath Basin development.

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Wizard Mar 3, 08 - 9:49 AM	Roath Basin Vague message: A large yellow 'crane type/drilling thing' has appeared this morning on Roath Basin (on the fenced off land across from the Norwegian Church). I can only presume that some redevelopment work is starting there...
Cardiff Ian Mar 3rd, 2008 - 10:36 AM	Re: Roath Basin Yet another project where information is thin on the ground! It's prompted me to do some digging on the internet where I found these minutes relating to Cardiff Bay that provide some points of interest (source - Vale of Glamorgan website of all places!) Cardiff Bay Advisory Committee
Hypercelt Mar 3rd, 2008 - 11:45 AM	Re: Roath Basin glad to see the news about the waterbus commuter service and the opening of the Mermaid Quay to Barrage walkway/cycle way, although haven't seen any evidence of work on this.
Kyle Mar 3rd, 2008 - 3:31 PM	Re: Roath Basin Let's hope it's all part of the Igloo run development. With all the talk about Havannah Quay, Cardiff Waterside, Bay Pointe, St. Davids 2 etc. there's been very little talk about this for a while. Is it really happening ? The information in the link below has been around for quite a while with next to no news since. It would be great to see the 1,000,000 sq foot of commercial space start happening as well as the 1,000 proposed new homes but with all the other commercial and residential activity proposed or currently being developed in the city is this actually feasible ? What do you all think. I'd love to see a Cardiff equivalent of Manchester's Media City happen at Roath Basin. http://www.igloo.uk.net/project_detail.php?name=regeneration_cardiff_tiger_bay
Kyle Mar 3rd, 2008 - 3:43 PM	Re: Roath Basin Other than articles going back to 2006 and the Terry Farrell website below there's not much around. http://www.terryfarrell.co.uk/projects/mixing/mix_roath.html Wizard, let's hope what you have seen on the site is the start of this.
DRJones Mar 3rd, 2008 - 4:21 PM	Re: Roath Basin Was down the bay yesterday, and there seems to be some activity around Roath Basin. The little cottage/building opposite the tube was all wrapped up and theres other signs of progress going on.
DRJones Mar 3rd, 2008 - 4:32 PM	Re: Roath Basin incidently, the visitor centre (the tube) states in the visitor's video thing that this project has begun...
Kyle Mar 3rd, 2008 - 4:45 PM	Re: Roath Basin I hope you are right. It would be nice to see what they are starting with first as this is a very big mixed use development. It would be nice to see some more detailed designs of it if they are starting. Perhaps with part of it being funded by the WAG they may be starting with a technium building ?
Spence Mar 3rd, 2008 - 4:46 PM	Re: Roath Basin Presumably the new foot and cycle bridge connecting the Britannia Park area to the other side of the basin will be the first project. Well it was always intended to be anyway, otherwise the Bay walk could not be completed. Maybe that crane/drill has started boring the foundations?
Zach Mar 3rd, 2008 - 5:07 PM	Re: Roath Basin Was also down there on Sunday, I thought it looked like the plinths for a new bridge being built behind the fencing. The bridge is probably already built and sitting in some steel fabricators somewhere. In the dead of night in a week of two, it will just appear. Come to think of it as I'm typing, there is a white marquee on the land opposite roath basin with lots of steel frames in it??
Wizard Mar 3rd, 2008 - 9:49 PM	Re: Roath Basin I was told ages ago that the marquee was something to do with a boat. Also, the yellow crane thing that I reported at the start of this thread didn't seem to be there when I walked past in the way home!
wizard Mar 9th, 2008 - 8:33 PM	Re: Roath Basin I noticed today that a bridge has actually been installed. Maybe that's what that crane thing was doing when I walked past a week ago. The bridge looks very erm functional! I hope that it is a temporary structure. It does not look like the Studio Bednarski bridge which we are supposed to be having. Some other snippet of info on the Roath Basin development on Cardiffandco weblink: http://www.cardiffandco.com/news/detail.asp?id=23
Kyle Mar 11th, 2008 - 12:27 PM	Re: Roath Basin Cardiff & Co are at MIPIM 2008 in France this week with Igloo homes as per their website. We should see some press coverage of their plans for Roath Basin at some point this week hopefully. I hope we'll see some decent plans and renders.
Kyle Mar 12th, 2008 - 4:26 PM	Re: Roath Basin Still no news on this even though Igloo homes and Cardiff & Co are apparently in Cannes this week. There's plenty of articles on Propertyweek.com regarding MIPIM 2008 for Birmingham, Liverpool, London and some non-UK cities but naff all on Cardiff and in particular Roath Basin just yet. I was kind of hoping that the developers behind Havannah Quay might have appeared at this with Cardiff & Co as well but they are clearly not in a position to be marketing the scheme.
Kyle Mar 17th, 2008 - 5:58 PM	Re: Roath Basin I sent an email at the end of last week to Igloo Regeneration asking if anything happened at the MIPIM last week. I've just had a reply from their Development Director. See below : Thank you for your email. The Roath Basin project was unveiled to the property industry at the MIPIM Property Conference last Wednesday. Details of our proposals are available on our website (link provided below). The project is in its early stages at the moment, with first occupations planned for late 2010. We are committed to an ongoing programme of community engagement and I would welcome the opportunity to involve you in that process, or answer any specific queries that you may have.
Cardiff Ian Mar 17th, 2008 - 6:16 PM	Re: Roath Basin Good to see that they've replied to you but I guess the link points to their website which says first occupation is in 2008. Things have obviously moved back by a couple of years...
James Mar 17th, 2008 - 10:19 PM	Re: Roath Basin whats the link? Email: jat_moore@yahoo.co.uk
Kyle Mar 18th, 2008 - 11:17 AM	Re: Roath Basin It's just the Igloo homepage. If you look at the list of projects there's one under the name of Tiger Bay which just shows the same picture of the bridge...sadly no images of any buildings. http://www.igloo.uk.net/
marbo Mar 18th, 2008 - 11:50 AM	Re: Roath Basin drove through the docks the other day, and there's a new tarmac path going from the new bridge to the barrage. It's all fenced off from the docks/roath basin area, but looks pretty finished, so it can't be too long till its open and you can walk from the inner harbour to the barrage Email: martin.chorley@gmail.com
Kyle Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:52 AM	Re: Roath Basin I'm impressed by Igloo. I've had a reply from their Development Director. He emailed me two powerpoint slides as well which I will try to attach. I'll email them to Paul as well in case I don't work out how to do that properly. Kyle, I attach some unreleased images that have recently been reviewed (and well received) by the Design Commission for Wales. Off-site highways improvements and advanced preparation works are programmed to commence within the next few months, with public realm works starting early 2009 and residential building later in 2009. Regards Mark Hallett Development Director Igloo Regeneration
Kyle Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:55 AM	Re: Roath Basin Okay, so a simple cut and past doesn't work. Can someone send me instructions on how to paste into a post please ? On the news from Igloo, I know they aren't actually starting construction until next year but there is some preparation work to be done I guess, plus by the time they start hopefully we'll be over the housing slump and financial market rubbish that's going on.
Wizard Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:58 AM	Re: Roath Basin It's both impressive and a hallmark of a professional organisation to get a courteous reply to an email.
Wizard Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:02 AM	Re: Roath Basin Kyle - if you forward them to forwardcardiff@yahoo.co.uk then I will try to sort it out.
Kyle Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:39 AM	Re: Roath Basin Wizard, forwarded the email I sent on to Paul. The two slides are only masterplan images, but it's better than no update at all which is what we seem to be getting with most other proposed major developments in the city.
Cambo_Dai Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:44 AM	Re: Roath Basin Can you forward to david_@ifs.org.uk
Cambo_Dai Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:44 AM	Re: Roath Basin oops I mean david_p@ifs.org.uk
Kyle Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:48 AM	Re: Roath Basin Cambo, it's just sent to you. As mentioned above, don't expect too much from the slides, I'm just happy that SOMETHING is happening !
Wizard Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:55 AM	Re: Roath Basin PHASE 1 and PHASE 2
jantra Apr 9th, 2008 - 11:21 AM	Re: Roath Basin can damianevans@esquare.co.uk have htem as well... ooh..forward cardiff has something to discuss as the May meeting (which will go ahead as myself, Cardiff Ian and Hypercelt are all attending - any others perhaps!) Website: http://www.forwardcardiff.co.uk
URBANO Apr 9th, 2008 - 11:25 AM	Re: Roath Basin Looks quite encouraging. Suitably steet patterned, rather than out of towney. What about phase 3 in the middle, though?
Karl Apr 9th, 2008 - 11:46 AM	Re: Roath Basin Assuming it's to scale the development looks to be pretty big - bigger than Capital Waterside/Scott Harbour combined. Bring it on! Email: thomask1969@hotmail.com
Wizard Apr 9th, 2008 - 11:59 AM	Re: Roath Basin Good point - what's is the middle ! Maybe the Adventure golf course is going to make a comeback - bigger and 'better'!!!
Kyle Apr 9th, 2008 - 12:13 PM	Re: Roath Basin I would have thought that they want to see how Phases 1 and 2 progress first. What about an aquarium ?
Spence Apr 9th, 2008 - 12:25 PM	Re: Roath Basin Waterfront park maybe?
Cardiff Ian Apr 9th, 2008 - 12:28 PM	Re: Roath Basin I really hope the BBC move down here - it would give the development some momentum and also hopefully a landmark building.
Kyle Apr 9th, 2008 - 1:53 PM	Re: Roath Basin It would be great to see the BBC down there but judging by what their director of development said it's going to be residential first at the end of 2009. Considering that phase 1 is parallel to Adventurer's Quay that's not suprising. Perhaps phase 2 nearer to the waterfront is going to be commercial and include the technium that has been talked about ? Looking at the two gaps there must be at least four phases to this. There's the large amount of land between phases 1 and 2 and then there's the land surrounding the various dry docks parallel to the visitor centre and out towards the bay itself and the barrage. Judging by the masterplan they are being built on as well...kind of perfect for the leisure element of the development after the earlier phases have kicked in I guess.
Wizard Apr 9th, 2008 - 3:12 PM	Re: Roath Basin It's the other way around - phase 1 is over the Inner Harbour and phase 2 is by Adventurers Quay. If I'm not mistaken, the original plan was to have a 'Gene Park' on the site (it was actually in the middle bit if I recall correctly). I don't know what has become of this 'vision' for the site.
URBANO Apr 9th, 2008 - 3:57 PM	Re: Roath Basin Perhaps it was a Green Park, not a gene park; just a park. Why else the mysterious gap between phase 1 and 2 ?
Kyle Apr 9th, 2008 - 4:41 PM	Re: Roath Basin URBANO, there are three pictures altogether. Wizard has posted the images from the two that show the first two phases. There is also a "masterplan" slide that has the overall scheme with buildings in between phase 1 and 2, plus buildings around the various dry docks towards the visitor centre and barrage. I suspect that these parts may form further phases perhaps ?
Kyle Apr 9th, 2008 - 4:50 PM	Re: Roath Basin Wizard, I'm sure phase 1 is at the back near AQ and phase 2 closer to the inner harbour. Not that it really matters because it's all way off yet. If someone can send me instructions I'll post all 3 images of them.
URBANO Apr 9th, 2008 - 8:47 PM	Re: Roath Basin Thanks Kyle It was a(not very funny) joke
URBANO Apr 9th, 2008 - 8:57 PM	Re: Roath Basin The 3 inmages would be very intersting and helpful.
Wizard Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:17 PM	Re: Roath Basin You're right Kyle. I mis-labelled the pics above. phase 1 should read phase 2 and vice versa. Now that's got the project off to a flying start!
Kyle Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:41 PM	Re: Roath Basin Sorry URBANO, I've been missing most jokes today...must have left the sense of humour in bed...that or last night's bottle of red ! So, how do I post an image then ? Anyone ?
Kyle Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:43 PM	Re: Roath Basin FFS, I can't even post correctly...I meant to say "...or last night's bottle of red has messed me up more than I though"
Wizard Apr 9th, 2008 - 9:58 PM	Re: Roath Basin I post photos by firstly uploading onto flickr (or a similar photo sharing website) then hyperlinking them according to the link that they have created.There is however probably an easier way! I hope that makes sense!
URBANO Apr 9th, 2008 - 10:16 PM	Re: Roath Basin Kyle- thans very much, but never any reason to apologise to me!
wizard Apr 11th, 2008 - 2:08 PM	Re: Roath Basin The final one which I forgot to post a few days ago
Kyle Apr 11th, 2008 - 2:29 PM	Re: Roath Basin I really hope that the buildings over the dry docks are reserved for food and drink units as the views back to the inner harbour from them could be very very good. I guess they will come last depending on how the rest of the scheme works out. I'll leave it a while probably until the groundworks start, but I think I may email Igloo again in the future to ask about the plans for the later phases.
Me Apr 14th, 2008 - 6:37 PM	Re: Roath Basin Cardiff already has a 'gene park', based at the Heath. It employs ten people, most of whom are mainly based in other organisations. There has been a trend in modern bioscience buildings for eye-catching architecture, but they always require massive external funding and are built in places that already have a large scale bioscience sector. I'm not sure Cardiff has this, beyond the university. I suspect if cardiff were to have a new centre it would be located closer to the uni - co-location of centres, public and private, is another big thing in bioscience buildings right now. A few examples: Centre for Life, Newcastle: barcelona centre for regenerative medicine: Institute for cell and molecular science, London: And the biggest by far, the Biopolis in Singapore: I dont think there is the momentum in Cardiff right now to have a largescale new build bioscience centre at Roath Basin, as much as it is a nice idea...
Wizard Jul 30th, 2008 - 11:28 AM	Re: Re: Roath Basin I had a letter through the post yesterday (I live in Adventurers Quay)stating that a company called Dawnus Ltd were going to start (on 4th Aug I think) the first of a 2 phase programme of works to upgrade and alter the road network entrance to Roath Basin at the back of Adventurers Quay. So finally some work is to commence on the Roath Basin development.