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Christiaan
 May 20, 06 - 12:23 AM |
Fun.. but don't go too far
Oke guys. I'm like a huge fan of coldplay and stuff. And i see the fun side of your website. But don't take it too far. Chill out and get a life. Go out and love. Have a nice day! |
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Garlic Host
Jun 2nd, 2006 - 11:40 PM |
Re: Fun.. but don't go too far
You don't get it. It's deadly serious. In a way... Decipher the codes! "and I'm not gonna stand and wait not gonna leave it until it's much too late oh on a platform i'm gonna stand and sing that I'm nothing on my own and I love you please come home my song is love, is love unknown and I've got to get that message home" - A Message by Chris Martin |
Heirophant
Jun 5th, 2006 - 1:33 PM |
Re: Fun.. but don't go too far
Yeah, Garlic - just think of all the lyrics where Chris talks about puzzles and codes to be solved - "the sign that I couldn't read or the light that I couldn't see some things you have to believe but others are puzzles, puzzling me" (Speed of Sound) "Do you feel like a puzzle, you can't find your missing piece?" (Talk) "Under the surface trying to break through Deciphering the codes in you I need a compass, draw me a map" (Square One) ...and the puzzle code on the cover of x&y. So what is the answer? THE CHURCH OF CHRIS MARTIN! |
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Garlic Host
Jun 5th, 2006 - 10:01 PM |
Re: Fun.. but don't go too far
And it's not like the puzzles are that hard. Even the bible has its Song of Songs that clearly combine eartly and divine love, or at least this is how it's interpreted by most. Now check again CM's lyrics. Many claim he's singing simple lovesongs to his girlfriend, wife or kids but it really doesn't make sense that way: "oh on a platform i'm gonna stand and sing" Chris says he's on stage because of... "that I'm nothing on my own" to tell he cannot live without his wife?? C'mon! "and I love you please come home" that he misses her?? But then check this: "my song is love, is love unknown" love 'unknown'?? A secret lover? This makes no sense if he's singing to his wife or anyone people know. It's a 'hidden' love, an 'occult' one. "and I've got to get that message home" This last bit has so many possible meanings that I cannot start listing them here. Bono has many lyrics like this, mixing love poetry with biblical passages and mystical or religious state of minds.('she moves in mysterious ways', 'who'se gonna ride your wild horses'). And surprise surprise U2 is Coldplays 'great example'. |
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Garlic Host
Jun 5th, 2006 - 10:07 PM |
Re: Fun.. but don't go too far
Forgot to mention. First the phrase: "please come home" then: "get that message home". So who is at home now and who is away? Again this is classic gnostic thinking, the wandering 'lost sheep', which is in itself 'message' (DNA) or also called Sophia in certain traditions. |
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Heirophant
Jun 13th, 2006 - 2:37 PM |
Re: Fun.. but don't go too far
Another graet post, Garlic  Whenever CM sings about home (a.k.a. Clocks) he means his spiitual home, the Kingdom Of Heaven. He struggles to return to that state of being himself ("How long do I have to climb/Upon the side of this mountain of mine?") and to lead us all there with him. Therefore, he is more of a Bohdisatva than a Jesus figure, who lets face it, just buggered off after the ressurection. Love Unknown - he is referring to the love between Jesus and the Magdalene, which is unknown in the canonical Gospels, but is writ large in the Gnostic Gospels, such as the Gospel of Judas, or the Gospel of Mary, mentioned in Da Vincis Code. ~H ---------------------------------------- "I wanna live in a wooden house" |
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Petra & SALTS
Jul 4th, 2006 - 2:57 PM |
Re: Fun.. but don't go too far
Garlic and Heiro, yep, bullseye. "Whenever CM sings about home (a.k.a. Clocks) he means his spiitual home, the Kingdom Of Heaven." to this I say: "Oh take me back to the STAR." (if you listen carefully to The Scientist there is no "T" sound at the end when he supposively says "take me back to the start", more accurately he is saying "take me back to the STAR" ...look at the stars, look how they shine for you, etc. Star being the source, the morning star, infinite love/consciousness, etc, etc, etc...This I think is why coldplay have never published any official lyrics, then it would be too obvious. |
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Garlic Host
Jul 17th, 2006 - 11:07 AM |
Re: Fun.. but don't go too far
Garlic wrote about Coldplay's song Message: "my song is love, is love unknown Love to the loveless shown And it goes on You don't have to be alone love 'unknown'?? A secret lover? This makes no sense if he's singing to his wife or anyone people know. It's a 'hidden' love, an 'occult' one." Some evidence of CM's inspiration one can find in the source of this bit of lyric, which I didn't realize before. It's taken from Samuel Crossman's hymn from 1664.: "My song is love unknown, My Savior's love to me, Love to the loveless shown". So Chris leaves out the "My Savior's love to me" and quotes this Christian hymn. Now Coldplay is not known to be a Christian band, so what drives CM to put all these things in the lyrics? A closet Christian? Or someone who went deeper to the core of Christianity, like the Gnostics, someone who entered the light himself and was "send back" to us to tell about it mixing new and old words? |
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