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"Liven up the Conversation!" - Intro & Topic One

Greetings friends, furs of friends, long & currently silent past posters, all interested lurkers, and potential newbie posters,

INTRO - - -

I've decided to do what I can to liven up this board a bit. Wendy, as one who helps manage the group's small (very small, dollar wise) donated monies, shelled out $9.00 of the balance to keep this site up and running for another year for those of us that wanted such. Anyone else on board willing to offer more content to keep Mastiff Guardian afloat? Come on friends, take a deep breath and dive in the deep end! Ha Ha!

Some of us are not Facebook fans and prefer the closer knit family that resides here. Others don't or can't post pictures. Some of us write silly tales and lengthy posts (guilty as charged,) many share short and sweet sentiments, and still others don't chime in and remain curious lurkers. All are welcome, here. Jump in, you lurkers - - - we're not a biting breed of board posters as long as you PLAY NICE.

What we all have in common here at Mastiff Guardian, however, is the love of our pets, the love of the OEM breed, and a sheer wish to share our experiences with, and seek the support of, other participants as we deal with the GOOD, BAD, UGLY & SPECTACULAR aspects of pet parenting these GENTLE GIANTS. People and pet stories and/or pics of other breeds or animals (and kids or grand kids or crazy spouses) always welcomed, too!

MY PLAN - - -

My "Liven up the Conversation" plan is to introduce a new topic for discussion a couple of times a month (most will be about Mastiffs, but other breed / species subjects might drop in on occasion.)

I do have at least one disclaimer: All comments, all responses are personal opinions & or experiences & or suggestions for contemplation only and it is the reader's responsibility to verify comments with a professional veterinarian and / or professional animal specialist. Never discard that famous adage, "Trust, but verify," even among well intended friends.


This question is for the seasoned Mastiff owner(s) to address to the undecided, first time, or unknowing younger Mastiff pet parent(s). (Anyone lurking?)

Current Mastiff parents, list one or a few things - even as you did all the necessary research - that you didn't expect or understand fully before bringing home your first OEM. Guessing this list could be almost endless!


1) The hubster and I had no idea that some businesses, hotels, camp sights, kennels, vets, trainers, etc., all claiming to be "pet friendly," DISCRIMINATED against large and huge breed dogs. Wasn't until our first OEM passed the 100 pound mark that we were informed of the contractual "mouse print" that denied dogs over 50 pounds entrance into several of these self proclaimed, "pet friendly" businesses. Ask specific questions and get guaranteed acceptances in writing before you leave home.

2) We actually read this, and thought we understood such, but it didn't hit home until the oldest, 150 pound puppy (yes he was still a puppy) had his first antibotic treatment for a minor injury. MEDICATION IS DOSED BY WEIGHT! Don't expect to get out of the vet's office with a prescription & a bill less than $80.00 for the big big dogs and puppies! I would recommend starting a pet care savings account or looking into pet insurance for all large, and especially huge breed, pets before deciding to purchase a big boy or girl.

Even if the lurkers don't check in, I think we can all learn from each other on this topic. (And it could be darn right hilarious, too! We all need more laughs, don't we?!?!?)


I have no idea if this will help activity on the board or not. I'll keep it up for a few months and see how it goes. I'm just not willing yet to let Mastiff Guardian go down without a fight! Hugs and best wishes to all. -Cindy-

Re: "Liven up the Conversation!" - Intro & Topic One

I think this is a great idea !!!
One thing Hubby and I did not expect was how many cysts our Mastiff came out with and stiff does get new ones to this very day. I only found out when I asked if others had this problem..( thinking maybe it was that expensive food causing it) Well turned out everyone has been through cysts with their Mastiff's right down to calling there loved baby doggy.."lumpy".
The feeding turned out to be a big surprise also, they dont eat as much as I thought ! Kosta eats a good quality food ... 3 cups in the morning and 3 cups at night. Then of course she would get some cheese or whatever else she wanted and would gave that sweet puppy look to make me give it to her. Kosta weighed in at 201 pounds . ha ha
Also, the best part is we never expected a Mastiff (on the bully breed list) to be so stinking sweet, and senitive !! If I raise my voice at the Rottweiler's she runs away thinking Im getting on to her !! Poor thing, she does no wrong !!! The Rotties on the hand...

Re: "Liven up the Conversation!" - Intro & Topic One

@ Wendy - - - I agree that the "lumpy bumpy" factor would have been good to know as first time Mastiff pet parents. As we fretted with our older dogs, our long term, trusted vet gave us a good heads up: "Keep an eye on any lump or bump but don't get panicky unless it changes size or shape or color and / or tends to bother the dog, and point such out to me at every visit!"

Our vet's advice turned out to be spot on for our dogs, as all of our OEM's aged well with the lumpy bumps until one of Sampson's lumpy bumps grew and started agitating our youngest big boy - big time - in a matter of days.

As regular readers & posters might remember, this was an ingrown hair follicle - gone wild - which required a surgical removal of the cyst, and castration of Sampson to use the skin from his scrotum to skin graft over the wound, for all to turn out well after days (almost 2 weeks) in vet med ICU. Samp still has at least three cysts that have been the same size for years and do not bother him in the least so we remain trusting that sometimes Lumps and Bumps just show up!

We were ALSO surprised, as first time Mastiff pet parents, at the amount of food an adult Mastiff would consume, and all three of ours (ranging from 200 - 220 pounds at a trim, healthy for their differing bone structures, appropriate weight) never needed more than 3 cups of dog food in the morning and 3 cups in the evening with a minimum of cheese and peanut butter snacks throughout the day. (Okay - - - I'm fessing up - - - and maybe a few other treats and snacks, too, but nothing very obnoxiously fattening on a regular basis.)

I even know of a few Golden and Lab pet parents that feed their adult dogs more than six cups of chow daily, so I'm in total agreement with Wendy that adult, Mastiff's don't eat as much as most imagine they might! (The funny secret is that the Mastiff's are far superior about conserving personal energy! That's just the way these boys and girls rock and roll, isn't it?!?!?!)

Thanks for your comments, Wendy. And hugs for Kosta!

Hoping many more of you regular readers will jump in on this thread and share your own experiences & memories about the Mastiff fur kids. It's good to share common experiences, don't ya'll think?!?!?! -Cindy-

Re: "Liven up the Conversation!" - Intro & Topic One

I suppose what surprised me the most when I became a first-time mastiff owner, was their overwhelming need for human companionship. Previously I had a black lab which is a breed well know for their friendliness. Yet my first mastiff (Bull) was on a level above that and each mastiff I’ve had has been very dependent on human contact. Maybe it’s partly due to the extremes I go through to ensure they’re well socialized. Regardless they seem to have some instinctual need to be close to humans. My lab didn’t lean on people and he had no issue with going outside by himself or making his own fun. Also, I second their sensitive nature and their unique awareness of their surroundings. They really do need to be member of the family.

Re: "Liven up the Conversation!" - Intro & Topic One

Thanks for your comments, Bill, on several levels. First of all, we talked a friend of a friend whom liked our big Mastiff dogs out of purchasing a Mastiff as a "guard dog" he wanted to keep outside in a pen to bark out loud while protecting his property as we tried to explain to him that dogs weren't created to be solitary creatures.

No dog should be sequestered away from his / her human loved ones in the first place, and secondly, we risked losing his friendship status to tell him he was "rediculous" to even consider separating any dog away from his / her human(s). The guy moved out of our area a few years later, (without a dog, let alone a Mastiff) but neither my husband or I minded telling the guy, at the time, that he was not suitable for dog / Mastiff parenting in the first place if he didn't understand such. (I think he thought we were fanatics, but to this day, I don't give a diddly darn as to such mindless, misconceptions.)

"Dogs are pack animals and alienating one or more without daily human guidance and consistent human contact, will only lead to heartache," we cried. (He backed off at the time, but decided to not keep in touch with us after he left town . . . I can only hope he never acquired a dog without a significant attitude adjustment.)

Although all my lifelong dogs and cats have been indoor pets, I was struck by then, baby OEM brother, almost 3 year old boy Mastiff, Kosmo's hesitation one evening, the same evening first OEM Reilly passed away. He KNEW something was amiss: He read our body language even as we tried to disguise it from him. He knew his buddy was gone, and he could sense our grief even as we tried to hide it from him.

Kosmo and I sat out in the backyard as my husband trekked to the nearest liquor store to buy some beer as we sought some sauce to mourn the loss of our oldest boy. For the first time in this Mastiff's young life, second Mastiff son Kosmo sat between me and the gate (as first Mastiff son Reilly once did every time the spouse left the house awaiting the Hubster's return) and he literally SHIVERED in the hot summer city night temperature, in sheer fear of being the primary "caretaker." I was so very proud of him for taking on the challenge, but he was scared silly to be the new Mastiff in charge! Bless his ever loving heart as he remained stoic in protecting his human Mama!!! (It did get easier with time for the 200 + pound baby, but I nearly smothered him with kisses that night!!!)

I think, as I assume you do, that the best message we can possibly relay to future Mastiff parents is that "you better damn well make them part of your family or buy a pet rock."

As we know well, "These Mastiff's deserve nothing less." Loved your post! -Cindy-

Re: "Liven up the Conversation!" - Intro & Topic One

I agree 100 percent on making a Mastiff a indoor family member. I truly think these big goobers would be sad as can be without a family to take them indoors with them !!

Re: "Liven up the Conversation!" - Intro & Topic One

Sorry so late, Wendy, but I get it I get it! Your wordplay joke was spot on! Many hugs and well wishes for that Kosta girl of yours. So good to know she still enjoys your "good girl" attentions even if she is slower than she once was. Kisses for that Redhead! Okay? -Cindy-