Re I only understood about half of your message. What is a barbouni? As for not giving up hope with Heidelberg I am afraid that the glory days are all over. Heidelberg now iss now longer a glory club of Australia or even Victoria - now it is just another melbourne club and if they don;t watch out they will be playing with 50 ppl at the ground with the old barbeque cooking. Thats the nature of thr round ball.