Let's hope it is not a roundabout in a dim and distant business park.
Maybe they're going to house share with ITV?
I would assume that they would locate near or at the Roath Lock studios?
Could give a boost to the area as a media centre. Especially if S4C co-locate and ITV's smaller operation sets up in the area.
Maybe a much better use for land in the area than the replacement travellers site when the Rover Way site is closed. Two of the possible replacements on the Councils shortlist are in that area.
I would love the BBC to try and link the City Centre and the Bay..How, I don't know, but perhaps something along the river off Dumballs Road or Callaghan Square, or perhaps off Tyndall Street? That would really shake up the City Centre, and make Adam Street area feel far more central, which would be wholly positive.
Other than that, surely the glass needle site will be sniffing around them?
Think Sports Village...nudge nudge wink wink!!
S4C to take over the coal exchange?
I'm really excited about this. It's sounding like a choice between a couple of sites in the bay and the city centre then. Either way, it's a major boost for the city so fingers crossed it'll definitely go ahead.
I prefer the idea of them, plus the likes of ITV and S4C moving to the Roath Basin or Cardiff Waterside sites, but something impressive at the Sports Village site would be okay as well.
The sports village has its plans, i think Roath lock would be best for the city, and in the long term best for the BBC (even short term is better for their staff!)
So everyone will have to get down to Roath Lock by public transport? I can see that being popular........
I think it would be far more popular than taking (practically non-existent) public transport down to the sports village!
I'm guessing quite a lot of BBC staff are already based in either Roath Lock studios or Hoddinot Hall. Surely it would make sense for the new centre to be in the same area?
Would the travel to work plan for the site be required to identify ways the workers are expected to get there and back? Especially as it has been reported that there will be limited car parking at the development.
Wherever this development goes it could have the effect of improving public transport to the location and its surrounding area? If at Roath Lock it might even get some people onto the Baycar so we will see less of that bus going around virtually empty.
It must be a 10 minute walk down to Roath Dock from the Bay station. Anyone going by train through Queen St would be fine but if you're coming in East/West you'd have to change at Central. Yeah, there's a bus service. But unless you live in town or on the route, you'd need to take another bus into town first. Then pick up the 2nd bus to take you to Roath Dock. We're talking maybe 45 minutes in total to go 2-3 miles. Far more sensible would be to have the new facilites in town - Callaghan Sq (near bus station, train Station) or abandon this public transport policy.
The moving forward plan has stated that it wants to reconfigure this part of the bay with 'statement' buildings in the aforementioned hole, the Red Dragon site and their soon to be old offices. They could get a nicer rate on rents if they help fulfil the council's plans. They'd also be close to the BBCNOW then, who used to practice in Llandaf before the days on Hoddinot Hall, too.
What's with the apostrophes?
term's = terms
employee's = employees
amount's = amounts
run's = runs
He has trouble with lucidity and I don't think he's quite got the English language sorted yet. He'll come up with some excuse or another if he follows the recent pattern. Take care though in pointing out his failings. There's none so blind as those who will not see. It'll end up being your fault!
What's bizarre is that I worked in the Beeb for 7 years (left about a year ago) and they were talking about a move about 5 years ago - I naturally assumed that sort of information was already well known.
Over the last few years I've worked on a number of proposals and potential sites - one interesting place they were looking at was near Ocean way on the old Nippon Electric Glass site.
The proposal here was for a fully integrated studio and office site - however the top bigwigs were concerned about access to the site as the council had no imminent plans to build the missing part of the A4232 (access would have been from Ocean/Rover Way)
Another proposal was to purchase the land opposite Roath Lock for offices, but last I heard on that was the Beeb missed a deadline to declare their interest and it went to somebody else.
Assembly Square was also briefly considered, until they realised they'd need much more space.
Llanishen Reservoir!?!? HA!
A few more details have emerged. The "For Sale" signs are going up on the Llandaff sites next week and the new building is to be around 150,000 sq ft with 300 parking spaces. Combined with the 200,000 sq ft Roath Lock complex this will give BBC Wales roughly the same square footage as BBC North in Salford.
Wow. That's a surprise. The move to Salford was a big deal.
That's a lot of car parking spaces, I do hope that means car parking will be under the new building(s) rather than wasting space next to it.
Just driven past the BBC in Llandaff. The "For Sale" signs are up on both sides of Llantrisant Rd. Looks like this one development that's definately going to happen.
I should imagine that they're looking for a delayed sale or a sale and lease-back deal.
Just realised the planning app submitted by the BBC includes site drawings showing the locations of the for sale signs recently erected.
The claim to be drawn by me - they weren't, I left the company a year ago!
Where can I collect my royalties?
Oh God, the thought of turning the BBC Llandaf site into an estate of Redrow suburban redbrick Noddy-houses makes me want to puke.
Social Housing I say!! Not enough in Llandaff area.
The shortlist has now been whittled down to three choices - Central Square, central station car park south of the GWML or the Capital Waterside site between Atradius and the Senedd.
That means Callaghan Square, Capital Quarter and Roath Basin have been ditched. No real surprise about the first two but a bit of a blow to Roath Basin I think.
If the building is in addition to the one planned by Rightacres for the Glass Needle site and if it means that the bus station and the infrastructure around there finally gets started I'd plump for Central Square.
The building proposed at Capital Waterside (No 1 Assembly Square?) looks good in the renders - and it would complete the development facing the waterfront. Perhaps it might even lead to further developments in the scheme?
Not fussed on the car park south of the train station. It would be nice to see this developed one day but I think there are more important sites to concentrate on first. I also think the collection of buildings around there are so mediocre I don't want to see what will hopefully be a flagship building tainted by it's proximity to such crap.
Whats everyone's preference?
From my perspective, it's difficult to plump for one site over any other. The fact that the land at Assembly Square (next to the heart of our devolved Government) is still mainly empty speaks volumes about the lack of demand for high end commercial offices in Cardiff (regardless of the PR releases that are issued about lack of grade A spaces).
Large office requirements(large by Cardiff standards that is) are akin to total eclipses - very rare. When one comes along, it seems like a generational death knell to the other developments.
On balance, north of the station does seem like an attractive proposition to (hopefully) start the redevelopment of Central Square, which ultimately we have been moaning about for longer than any other space in the city - so, like you, this is probably my preferred choice out of the shortlist.
my preference would be next to the Senedd. We could hope that this would make our media a little more ambitious in the way it holds our government to account. I also think having assembly square completed may be the catalyst for further development in the vicinity
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