Anyone know what is going on opposite Century Wharf on the James Street Bridge?

Do you mean where a big hole has suddenly appeared in the streetscape? I'm sorry I don't know but I wouldn't mind knowing myself.

Apologies in advance for this being a less than useful answer

Do you mean Clarence Road Bridge?

I've only ever known it as Clarence Road bridge but knew what was meant. thinking about it, James Street runs from the bridge to the Millennium Centre and the road opposite (by the garage) is Corporation Road. Or so I thought....

where is Clarence Road?

edit:
i've looked on google maps and can see that Clarence Road runs from the kink in the road where it meets James Street to the roundabout with Corporation Road and Avondale Road

Planning permission had been granted a few years ago for flats if I recall correctly - on the old warehouse(?) and on the church to the rear.

I assume it is that development.

I thought Clarence Road ran from Dumballs road to the junction with Corporation Road. I never saw the swing bridge open though.

Bowles Dredging was on the left coming from Dumballs Road after the bridge

it's properly known as Clarence Bridge

when I was a kid in the 60s we called it the Green Bridge - it was rebuilt in the 70s


http://www.movablebridges.org.uk/BridgePage.asp?BridgeNumber=369

So does anyone know what is going on south of Clarence Street Bridge on the Docks side of the Taff - they were pile driving

Building my garage

The warehouse wasnt much of a loss, but he church was a shame

Capel Annibynwyr y Dociau.

It is a sad loss but attitudes towards non-conformist chapels have improved. I think we've passed the low-point in terms of destuction of chapels.

City Living on the Taff is getting ever so popular -its the sort of development that I like to see occuring.... how many flats have they had permission to build and who is building it?
Any correspondance on this be grateful like..... Named us all after this river - my avcent got this water all over it

I am not aware of any desireable living on the Rummney Riverside - There are some apartments at the mouth of the Ely... the Clarence Bridge development is between Century Wharf and Sand Wharf - any idea how substanial this development will be?
Is there any plans for more Riversode developments in Cardiff?

I can't remember how many flats this will be, but it's not likely to be much more than a couple of dozen, if that. And from memory, they won't really be riverside, as they'll either face James Street or the side-street where the church is/was.

Shame nobody is more forthcoming with info on this build.
I prefer these builds to those on a bigger scale and I would like to know how many storeys its planned to be?

19 flats across 4 storeys.

Planning application reference 11/01168/DCI

http://planning.cardiff.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=_CARDIFF_DCAPR_96787

Check out the design and access statement for a render - absolutely horrendous. I would have preferred a derelict warehouse remained, that little church was also very pretty.

Lots of objections - Had a quick look and one made me chuckle.

"Furthermore the development will be overlooking a children's play area....I imagine other parents would be uncomfortable knowing their children could be watched or even photographed by adults in their rooms as they play. Of course it would be impractical for residents of the proposed development to be vetted so this does remain a very possible situation. I also feel this particular objection poses an interesting angle for the media."

Watch out kids there is a peado on every corner!

What fascinates me is the total lack of any artistic sensibilities by the architects. But I dont suppose a single one of them has any form of aesthetics built into them. I look at Horizon at Prospect Place and wonder how anyone can design such a building guaranteed to be incredibly unattractive. Not once has an architect remotely considered that this must be one of the most desirable locations in Wales. So Bellway go out of their way to ensure that not one apartment is really desirable.

Possibly I may be unfair to them and that the real culprits are the Council Planning Department.

I agree. Everything down there is crap. Prospect Place, Windsor Quay, Watermark. The list goes on. How do these people get away with it? Watermark for example is just a concrete monstrosity more suited to the Soviet era. When will we have 'design'??

I quite like watermark. It's curves are quite Art Deco. Certainly better than some of the blocks we have seen. The main issue is the stucco render - crap. That's the problem with most modern builds - the finishing is poor. Years gone by you'd have ornate design and finishing. You'd have thought with modern design and build techniques it would be cheaper to have such intricate designs incorporated but seemingly this is not the case.

Modern high density residential buildings are designed from the inside out. You have to look at them from the perspective of living inside the flats. The Watermark flats on the water side are stunning when inside them. Prospect Place is just plain cheap, designed to maximise builder revenue.

For those who are interested, check out the Bayscape floorplans in the Design and Access Statement at http://planning.cardiff.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=_CARDIFF_DCAPR_105194
The end flats on the river and 2 story penthouses will be quite something.

Must admit when I looked over Watermark when first built, the top apartments were very nice. The others - particularly those facing Morrisons - were very cramped. I looked at Prospect Place too. Most apartments I visited seemed larger than most I'd seen at Watermark. Celestia didn't impress me either. They were smaller than Prospect Place. In the end, I didn't move to any of them as my job took me away from Cardiff for which (re apartment living) I am most grateful!

I was sure you were speaking with sarcasm, most developments are quite nice in the bay. If they were that bad people wouldnt live there. I am especially surprised by Watermark as i find it one of the more attractive developments in the bay.





Were never going to get London quality developments because the locals wont pay the premium, but compared to other regional cities we do really well having no real modern eyesores.

I agree. I'm always proud to take guests out on the bay to show them our fantastic redevelopment. Some people in Cardiff don't appreciate what we have!