The Ice Arena Wales is our long awaited replacement for the big blue tent! so it surely deserves its own progress thread. Anyway this is what we are getting..
This was the site viewed from the swimming pool entrance on 2nd March 2014..
as ever the more photos shared on here the better - I know we've got some of our regular photographers pretty close!! hint hint!
Will this really be completed in time for summer 2015?
Hint taken , Paul. Here's a view of the site. Not a lot to see at the moment but the fence is going up well.
That's a big bloody site, it's not all for the ice rink is it ?
So is the ski slope basically the top floor or two of a multi-story car park? Is anything else planned to go underneath it?
I read there will be a budget hotel going under the ski slope too (a separate hotel to the 30 story one):
Oh my god finally it's taken years to finally build anything new to the sports village XD does anybody know what's going to happen to the blue tent after this one is built? anything good? i'm not expecting anything like Dubai XD
The plan is (eventually) for it to be offices and residential in the exact place of the blue tent:
I expect the tent itself will be destroyed in a humane way
More info about the whole area is here.
Here's an update on the work so far - there are lorry loads of earth being moved in and then levelled to the same height as the road it looks like.
It will probably feel a bit weird for all the people walking around in their swimming costume behind the glass walls of the swimming pool with all those builders looking in at them for the next year and a bit...
Shame so much space is going to residential buildings. NO news on bayscape hotel then? they could of built an aquarium but oh well
The levelling of the ground appears to have finished.
Looks like the build contract was signed today, and the foundation piles will start to go in next week - unless this is an April fools joke
The pile driver has moved in!
We talk about the arena a lot on here, but not much about the Devils who will play there. Here is a quick catch-up on their problems over the last season for those unaware:
But worth noting that since this was written they have signed GB International Netminder Ben Bowns as part of re-building the club for the future.
How is this progressing, a month on?
I have heard that it has stopped, the project is not going ahead.
Calling fake, ordinarily there is no space in username between Random and Comment ! #stalkeralert
They are still driving piles into the ground at the moment so no indication of work being stopped
It hasn't stopped? Who is that?
Who is that??
FYI, that wasn't me. Someone has now taken to mimicking me. Am currently at my dad's in Cardiff but a good way to check now is the IP address.
Seriously, there are some bloody idiots on this forum who get a kick out of childishness.
Oh No!...Spoke too soon!! Crash gnash!!
There was an "ice cutting" ceremony last week to mark the start of work on site. See here for a piccie: https://twitter.com/IceArenaWales/status/472046881594695680/photo/1.
I didn't know where to put this, so I went for the 'skating' link and put it here.
Info on a new indoor skate facility off Newport Road. Something new for the city and good for the kids.
there is already one near the national lottery building in a warehouse. There is also the outdoor one on the barrage.
We're putting some photos up fairly regularly on the Inferno (fans forum) Flickr account if you're interested. https://www.flickr.com/photos/122778799@N03/
The last ones were taking a month or so ago, but they're still putting the foundations in so there's not a huge amount of noticeable difference at the moment.
There's been a significant piece of Devils news in the last week in that the club has been sold by Paul Ragan to a Canadian consortium headed by Steve King. It also involves Todd Kelman who will be an owner and General Manager. He's left the Belfast Giants to do this and is generally regarded as the best GM in the league.
The previous owner was unpopular and the club would likely be battling near the bottom of the league under him, so this is a big and unexpected turnaround for the Devils.
Thanks for this Aled, I've occasionally had a look on The-Inferno.co.uk to see how it was progressing. Slightly OT, what is the job/role of a General Manager and how does it compare/differ from a manager in say football? Cheers
That's brilliant, so the appointment of a new GM really is big news comercially and will hopefully let the Devils move to the next level as I heard Paul Ragan wasn't flavour of the month the past year! Do you think a 3k arena is big enough for the Devils in the long run or you just happy to be out of the Big Blue Tent? I'm just a casual sports fan who makes it to 1 game or so a year, same with Glammy in the cricket, but I'd thought that if the Devils did get their act together and were successful they could nudge 5k or am I being overly ambitious. Thanks for your insight anyway
I think 3K is a safe size although personally I'd have liked to see more ambition with the arena being closer to 5K.
Nottingham, Belfast and Sheffield regularly pull in around 5k all playing out of their cities' concert arenas. The difference with Cardiff will be that I believe the arrangement with the Devils is that they will pay little or maybe even no rent for the use of the ice, where as the those other clubs are paying huge rental fees. The other advantage is that the Devils are will be primary tenants unlike Nottingham etc who have to schedule fixtures around concerts at the Trent FM arena for example.
So, from a business side (crudely speaking) the Devils could make a similar profit with less people through the door and could therefore compete at the top in terms of team budget. I would think Kelman will be looking to get the place selling out regularly within a year or two.
The other huge advantage to the new arena is the scope for sponsorship. The corporate facilities are virtually non-existent in the blue tent so I'd expect to see a significant increase in this, particularly as Kelman has a proven record of attracting good sponsors.
One other area that's not been mentioned much so far is that the Giants get far more media coverage in Northern Ireland than the Devils. They have a weekly highlights package on the UTV website and get regularly BBC news coverage in Northern Ireland.
Sorry I've taken this a long way off topic!
Thanks Aled. 1 last question, I remember in the late 90's/early 00's when Manchester Storm were getting massive crowds and ice hockey seemed to be doing really well in the country. Whats the likelihood Manchester and London having a teams again? Think the Sekonda Superleague was on regularly on Thursday nights on Sky Sports then too, would be good to see the sport reach it's potential here. Cheers
I'll tell you the problem with british ice hockey. London has no professional team. There is a few teams close to London but there abit far to travel for first timers. Birmingham has Solihull but it's on the edge and is semi pro. Coventry is not far away but again first timers may not want to travel. Other city's like Leeds, Liverpool and Leicester are in a similar position. And Manchester now play out of Altrincham Ice Dome which is much like what cardiff has right now and they play semi pro. So that's 1/4 of the population pretty much out before we start. Add to that a few other city's most towns and all villages and half the uk population isn't within 30 mins travel of a professional team. Then there is also the problem of bad seating, obstruted views and stands that make you feel separated from the game. Yes the Superleague failed i think the wage cap (£1m and 50k ) was 2 high to start with and that £900k was about right. The TV deal was poor £1million sounds good but the clubs had to pay for the filming ect and once everything was paid the clubs were only about £40k each better off. Also a problem was the diffrence in arena capacity/attendance. Manchester storm had 17245 capacity but some arena's had less then 2000 capacity. Then there was newcastle the problem there was the owner upset the durahm wasp fans so they refused to switch to newcastle when there rink was closed. But also from what i remember the arena at newcastle while new the seating was only on 3 sides ( like shefield). And so on
It's been pretty much confirmed that there will be a London team playing out of Wemblry Arena from the 2015/2016 season onwards which is great news for the sport.
Something new on site. Knowing next to nothing about building, I've no idea if this is of any significance.
Slightly off topic. There is a 'meet the owners' event tomorrow night so there should be some more info on the Devils future soon.
Edited to add.....I notice Chris Hartrey (who will manage the new rink) has tweeted that the first steels have been delivered and will be erected tomorrow.
It's a crane of sorts, they are often used in the construction of buildings
Dont take the piss Jantra, he's being helpful!
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