if
it's about Cardiff..
Sport, Entertainment, Transportation, Business,
Development Projects, Leisure, Eating, Drinking,
Nightlife, Shopping, Train Spotting! etc.. then we want it here!
That's a different company though, you can't assume the same thing will happen with this company. The jobs don't exist until people are employed in them and I don't think anyone assumes any different. Companies have plans that sometimes don't materialise for a whole variety of reasons, sometimes sinister but generally genuine.
What I would hope is that any government money that has been handed over to them is claimed back. I would hope, probably naively so, that there are mechanisms in place to do this and if there isn't there should be.
In addition to my comment above, since yesterday's announcement they've gone from no adverts on their website for Cardiff to a dozen already. So that's a good start considering in year 1 they are only forecasting 50 roles.
PLeasant surprise to see it already done today - I saw that monster lifting crane at thought it was for tonights activities - but like a moth to a flame I had to get a closer look!
Personally I am a little disappointed the previous glass needle scheme hasn't seen the light of day, mainly because of the prominence the height that project (30 storeys) would have brought to the city centre skyline. I would have rather seen a taller development 20 storeys or more. I am a strong advocate of tall buildings in the right places which I believe bring added prestige to the city and its general image to investors etc. Cardiff kind of missed out on some of these developments due to the onset of the last recession and as a pro-cardiff patriot I am a little narked that Swansea, Wales' second city still has the tallest building in Wales! We need an impressive skyline to stand comparison with some of the major English cities and those we are hoping to compete with in Europe to attract important investment and the right kind of settlers. The likes of Mancherster, Birmingham and dare I say, Bristol have stolen a march on us in the skyline stakes and we have some catching up to do.
Personally I am a little disappointed the previous glass needle scheme hasn't seen the light of day, mainly because of the prominence the height that project (30 storeys) would have brought to the city centre skyline. I would have rather seen a taller development 20 storeys or more. I am a strong advocate of tall buildings in the right places which I believe bring added prestige to the city and its general image to investors etc. Cardiff kind of missed out on some of these developments due to the onset of the last recession and as a pro-cardiff patriot I am a little narked that Swansea, Wales' second city still has the tallest building in Wales! We need an impressive skyline to stand comparison with some of the major English cities and those we are hoping to compete with in Europe to attract important investment and the right kind of settlers. The likes of Mancherster, Birmingham and dare I say, Bristol have stolen a march on us in the skyline stakes and we have some catching up to do.
Alex, while I agree with you regarding the height of schemes in Cardiff you appear to be discussing Capital Square rather than Capital Quarter, which is a different thread.
That's one of the things that annoys me, why are they calling the current Central Square area Capital Square when there's a similarly named Capital Quarter on Tyndall Street.
WalesOnline is reporting that all of the space in 1 Capital Quarter is at the heads of terms stage (ie under firm offer). Sounds like good news. Also reports Cardiff has made top 10 markets in uk for spec development. Also a good showing as London is probably 4 markets (city, west end, midtown - the silly americanised name for holborn and environs - and docklands). Be good to see further lettings progress and the bbc's final decision.
Bristol hasn't. Was there on Tuesday, its skyline is pretty non descript. Nice in parts but overall didn't feel ahead of here at all.
I think I'm right saying that large parts of central Bristol have quite severe restrictions on building height. That's certainly the case around the floating harbour.
Is that pic of the day showing work starting on number 2?
This photo may give you a better idea of what's going on..
This would appear to be the path for the new bridge, I believe the route will be up'n'running in July. No2 is on the left and I reckon they'll be pile driving any day now.
I know I move into dreaming territory here, but it looks like this new bridge, and the new pathway running from it, aligns perfectly with the small bridge over the dock feeder canal to the south, separated only by the road and parking for the Novotel. It would be nice if the parking and public realm could be reconfigured a little to open up an small avenue along that vista, giving better pedestrian and cycle links from the city center to the canal and the Schooner way residential area.
I'm not sure what the third piece of good news is - the opening of a bridge? (surely that isn't news - we knew that was going to happen!).
I like the design of No. 2 - its functional and a little boxy but its got a certain solidness and simplicity to it. It looks like the kind of office a mid-size city should be aiming for in its edge-of-prime areas (unlike Driscoll buildings or Fusion Point or the Peacocks building). The student accomodation isn't very exciting but again is solid and simple.
And when I was in Cardiff No. 1 looked better than it did in some photos posted here, although not as good as in original renders. Be interesting to see how No. 2 turns out.
Callaghan Square I'm less impressed about. Its just too big for the scale of buildings surrounding it. It lacks life and activity, and ends up feeling pretty windswept and uncared for, even in summer. I think that either:
(a) the Square should be made smaller, and the buildings on the south side brought closer to those on the north side. Or;
(b) something has got to be done to make sure the square itself gets more activity. The render appears to show a small kiosk building. I think we need need more than that. A pop-up food market? (with a few hot food stalls catering to office workers, which would number in the several thousand). A little indoor (glass) seating/dining area as well as outside dining area. If this isn't feasible (lack of demand), could a creche with outdoor play area be built? Handy for all those office workers, and again, would make the square feet less windswept.
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1) I think behind the scenes the long term Callaghan Sq plan is still up in the air, with the council still thinking they could put an arena/convention centre there, maybe by including the site of the warehouses on Canal Parade. Still some distance to go on this one.
2) I think the renders of the student flats are quite old and were developed for illustrative purposes of showing off the master plan. So what gets built might look different.
3) Have gone over the bridge now. Good experience, nice and wide, easy to cycle over as the gradient is fine and two bikes can pass when they meet (although I understand it is steeper than advised for full access for wheelchairs/prams etc).
Some nice views across the city, although nothing you wouldnt expect. Quite busy actually with numerous people using it. Whether they were all just passing over for the novelty like I was, or will be regular users, I don't know. The bridge will be even better when there actually is something at either end of it! It still has a slight hint of 'bridge to nowhere' about it.
There is scope for a station at Capital Quarter, maybe on a Newport to Central line. Once up and running it could host a fair number of people so it could be part of an Eastern metro line with further stops at Pengam Green, Rumney etc
There could even potentially be two stations; a high level station on the Queen Street to Central line that would be very useful for university students going to the nearby Atrium campus, as well as for commuters to Capital Quarter that live north of the city centre, and a low level station on the Central to Newport line which would be good for commuters that live outside of Cardiff.
Sort of like Heath Low level and Heath High Level, but it could act like an interchange station with a direct path connecting the two.
There could even potentially be two stations; a high level station on the Queen Street to Central line that would be very useful for university students going to the nearby Atrium campus, as well as for commuters to Capital Quarter that live north of the city centre, and a low level station on the Central to Newport line which would be good for commuters that live outside of Cardiff.
Sort of like Heath Low level and Heath High Level, but it could act like an interchange station with a direct path connecting the two.
(Though perhaps I'm getting ahead of myself )
Cardiff and Wales doesnt have a pot to pis in and you are talking about split level train station less than 500 yards from two other major interchanges
There has been mention of a Callaghan Sq metro station, basically where John Street is (and where that warehouse was quietly demolished not so long ago). It is not impossible to think that this could straddle the bay line and bridge the canal to also serve Capital Quarter.
It's not clear to me exactly how this proposed station would work. I imagine it would involve some reconfiguration of the junction, as it will cost £44m according to the article below. Work starting in 4-5 years time, if we are to believe the hype. That's about the same price as the new Admiral building, so it is no small undertaking.
My completely unfounded speculation is that the council will build their all new fancy head office on this site once they have sold off the existing plot on the bay, building the new Callaghan Square metro station underneath it, possibly straddling the reconfigured bay line with a frontage onto the canal facing Capital Quarter, thereby giving access to the new station from Capital Quarter over a canal bridge and better linking Capital Quarter and Callaghan Sq as a continuous district. At least that's what I guessed Goodway wanted in the previous council. It's not a bad idea if the sums add up.
Hey, if I had my way we would have sub-surface metro lines going under the city centre:
A line under Queen Street & Newport Road then down Cowbridge Rd, and a line under Working St (connected to Cardiff Central) then up North Rd, with a nice little underground interchange station by the castle. (With few other smaller stations dotted around) The Tyne and Wear metro has underground bits, why can't the South Wales metro have some as well?
(And... I guess I've just used up the Welsh Government's entire budget with that )
Cardiff and Wales doesnt have a pot to pis in and you are talking about split level train station less than 500 yards from two other major interchanges
I thought this also, then I looked at whitchurch, rhiwbina, coryton, birchgrove etc and thought again....
Cardiff and Wales doesnt have a pot to pis in and you are talking about split level train station less than 500 yards from two other major interchanges
I thought this also, then I looked at whitchurch, rhiwbina, coryton, birchgrove etc and thought again....
just for clarification purposes, which of the aforementioned stations are major interchanges?
Cardiff and Wales doesnt have a pot to pis in and you are talking about split level train station less than 500 yards from two other major interchanges
I thought this also, then I looked at whitchurch, rhiwbina, coryton, birchgrove etc and thought again....
just for clarification purposes, which of the aforementioned stations are major interchanges?
All of them!!
Haha, fair enough, I didnt read thru' properly, but I see the proximity is the bigger issue rather than the type of station it is next to.
There could even potentially be two stations; a high level station on the Queen Street to Central line that would be very useful for university students going to the nearby Atrium campus, as well as for commuters to Capital Quarter that live north of the city centre, and a low level station on the Central to Newport line which would be good for commuters that live outside of Cardiff.
Sort of like Heath Low level and Heath High Level, but it could act like an interchange station with a direct path connecting the two.
(Though perhaps I\'m getting ahead of myself )
Cardiff and Wales doesnt have a pot to pis in and you are talking about split level train station less than 500 yards from two other major interchanges
I take your point but the road system is at breaking point, we have to find and fund means to get people out of their cars and onto public transport.