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SS Canberra Model - more information required please

Hello all, This is my first post here and hope that you will be able to help me. I have recently been given a model of the SS Canberra. Its approx 2 foot long and comes in its perspex case. It has got great detail and even has the original red box it was shipped in from P & O. Marked in yellow/gold writing "P&O Orient Line - S.S. Canberra".

From what I know this was an official model sold by P & O - Think maybe 15 years old? and fairly expensive (£££).

I don't know how easy its to post pictures here but if it is then let me know and I will submit some.

Does any one out there collect such models or even owns this model? and last question I have is how much did they sell for?

Hope someone out there can assist me with more info,

Thanks all

Where are you from: Scotland

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Hi Steve, Thats great. I will get some photos done today and get them sent over to you so you can what I have been left. Thanks!!

Where are you from: UK

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This was my first ship. Mike (aka "Salva")

Where are you from: Parkham, Devon

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Hi there, Do you have one of these models? if so where did you get it and when?

Thanks!

Where are you from: Scotland

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Hello Bruce
Your say you think that the model is 15 years old. I believe this may be wide of the mark - I would suggest between 50-55 years would be more likely. You say that the company name on the box is "P&O Orient Line". P&O bought out the remaining share of Orient Line and renamed the passenger operations P&O Orient Line in 1961 (according to Wikipedia!) I joined the company in the second half of 1967 and as far as I can remember the company was just P&O - although I do recall that in the 12 months prior to me joining I was using the double name in correspondence when applying for a job. Someone else on this site may know the exact date the Orient name was dropped.

Sorry I have no more information that can help pinpoint the source of the model

Regards

David

Where are you from: Ipswich UK

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Hi David, Thanks for replying to the thread. Just to call out what I know about this item. It came from an elderly gent who loved going on cruises with his wife but had to stop due to insurance restrictions. I knew him for about 18 years and the ship was always there so I can only estimate age (hence my poor calculation).

If anyone knows the true age of this item then please get in touch. I am led to believe this was not a cheap item and its weight is probably 5kg giving you an idea of its quality.

Look forward to hearing more about this ship. Thanks in advance
Bruce

Where are you from: Scotland

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What a beautiful model of Canberra! Sorry to say, I have to make do with a bog-standard Airfix job, dating from the 1970s.

However, I can confirm that the "Orient" name was dropped, finally, in 1966 from the Company title. Thus it would appear that this superb example must predate that time.

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Hi Alan, Thanks for the reply to the thread. Yes its is a very beautiful model of the ship and interesting to read about dating as well. If anyone else has info on this model please feel free to add to the thread. I am not convinced I am the only one who has this model. Cheers!

Where are you from: Scotland

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My dad made an Airfix model when I was 4. We'd just travelled Melb-Lond on her (1964/5) Love this model, Airfix or not. I remember assisting my Dad with the pieces and the paint! Would love a big model like the one on here but I see it on eBay for 1,000 GBP's - OUCH!!

Where are you from: Melbourne, residing UK.

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Bruce, With the wealth of detail your post generated one thing has not been mentioned. I make no claims to any special forensic skill but, You have the original box. Who made it?? Should be on there somewhere. Once you have the manufacturer all should be revealed.

Where are you from: originally Gosport - Now Campbelltown N.S.W.

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Hi there, Thanks for the updates. There is no manufacturer on the outer box. The only id that I have is the brass style plate which at the bottom has made by classic ship models, England. Tel no: 01562 865203

As far as I can tell the manufacturer doesn't exist anymore - does anyone out there know much about classic ship models?

Thanks!

Where are you from: Falkirk

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Oh now that's interesting - the fact that the telephone area code is 01562 narrows the date down a bit. The addition of the "1" after the zero in all area codes did not take place until 1995 - prior to that, it would have been 0562. So that means the model must have been made post-1995. Strange they still used the P&O-Orient name!

Incidentally, 01562 is Kidderminster.

In fact, on thinking about it, I'd hazard a guess that this model may have been made as a commemorative piece at the time of Canberra's de-commissioning in 1997, showing her as she was originally, and under the name of her original ownership.

Where are you from: Ringwood, Hampshire, England

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Hi, this one is up on eBay. Don't know if it's the same as yours;
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/P-O-SS-CANBERRA-GREAT-WHITE-WHALE-PRECISION-BUILT-MODEL-IN-DISPLAY-CASE/263480993821?hash=item3d58b0e81d:g:QCIAAOSwHMJYGrFv
Cheers, April.

Where are you from: Melbourne, residing UK.

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April Claridge-Elstob
Hi, this one is up on eBay. Don't know if it's the same as yours;
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/P-O-SS-CANBERRA-GREAT-WHITE-WHALE-PRECISION-BUILT-MODEL-IN-DISPLAY-CASE/263480993821?hash=item3d58b0e81d:g:QCIAAOSwHMJYGrFv
Cheers, April.
Ah! Have had a look at this one. Nice, but not such a good replica as the one Bruce has. They've got the port of registry wrong as well - Canberra was registered in London, not Southampton!

Where are you from: Ringwood, Hampshire, England

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Hi there, the eBay item you have pointed out isn't mine although its very close. I did put mine up on the bay recently to primarily gauge value of this item. I had a variety of offers (up to £800) and as low as £50.

As to the aging question thats a good point with the 01 prefix. As far as I know Classic ship models doesnt exist anymore though.

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Hi, I am from Melbourne, travelled on Canberra in 1964/65. Family are from Birmingham, England. I am now living over in UK for the fifth time in my life. Feeling like a boomerang! HAHA Lovely ship the Canberra, and my personal favourite.

Where are you from: Melbourne, residing UK.

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Hi, I saw your one up on there a week or so ago I think. Lovely model. I have the old Airfix one I helped my Dad build when I was 4. Shame they didn't turn the Canberra into a floating hotel or Maritime exhibit like the Queen Mary.

Where are you from: Melbourne, residing UK.

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Yes, its a superb model. It weighs approx 5-6kg! the perspex case is heavy as is the plinth. The only thing thats wrong with it is the telegraph wires are a little bit out of sync if that makes sense. The guy who made the large offer said it would need to go to a model restorer to be sorted out but I will let you decide. I will post a couple of pics if someone can upload them for me. The only other imperfection is the outer box which has a couple of minor dinks from being stored.

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Bruce
Yes, its a superb model. It weighs approx 5-6kg! the perspex case is heavy as is the plinth. The only thing thats wrong with it is the telegraph wires are a little bit out of sync if that makes sense. The guy who made the large offer said it would need to go to a model restorer to be sorted out but I will let you decide. I will post a couple of pics if someone can upload them for me. The only other imperfection is the outer box which has a couple of minor dinks from being stored.
Right! I guess you won't be selling, eh though Bruce?

Where are you from: Ringwood, Hampshire, England

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Alan, to be open about this I am not sure what to do with it as I have no room to display it and unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future. It would ideally be better with someone who can display it / enjoy it as its too nice to hide away in a box as it is currently doing so. If someone out there wanted to make a decent offer then of course I would listen to that. However, I hate for someone to buy it and then resell it for a profit just to make money from it. Does that make sense?

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Bruce
Alan, to be open about this I am not sure what to do with it as I have no room to display it and unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future. It would ideally be better with someone who can display it / enjoy it as its too nice to hide away in a box as it is currently doing so. If someone out there wanted to make a decent offer then of course I would listen to that. However, I hate for someone to buy it and then resell it for a profit just to make money from it. Does that make sense?
I'll PM you!

Where are you from: Ringwood, Hampshire, England

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To complete the story of the Canberra model, I have now bought it from Bruce and we met up at a service station on the M6 last Tuesday (April 24th) to perform the handover.

She is now in pride of place in my dining room and looking very fine indeed. Now that I have examined the model closely for the first time, I am fairly convinced that it is as I suggested in earlier discussions on this thread - i.e. that it was made as a commemorative piece at the time of Canberra's de-commissioning in 1997. It shows the ship very much as she was in her final years, with satcom domes, tender lifeboats and even the extra radar platform that was welded on halfway up the forward face of the mast in the late 1980s.

So - thanks very much, Bruce - she is a beautiful addition to my home!

Where are you from: Ringwood, Hampshire, England

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Hi Bruce .
The last one I saw was at an auction in Sydney and fetched A$200 and came with light above. Most of these models were made for P&O and sent out to travel agents promoting the ship and cruises by Canberra .
There were also models of Oriana as well .
Best thing to do would be to put it on ebay with a reserve . Most collectors of P & O memorabilia would look there first .

Where are you from: Mittagong NSW Australia

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Hi there, Thanks for the update. As you will see from the above threads the ship now has a new owner who I know will cherish it. Its a great model though and I was sad to see it go but I know it went to a good home.

Where are you from: Falkirk