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Tyre manufacture, just personal preference?

Ok so will be investing in 5 new tyres after getting my ruby running, new tyres are now needs so I can actually use. According to the type and codes the ones on were probably manufactured in1938, cracked badly worn as expected! Which also ties up with its history quite nicely of being stored from the early 40s.

I have read about sizes, it has 400 width so will continue on this path, so really looking for any recommendation on brand rather than size

Re: Tyre manufacture, just personal preference?

Longstones every time. Excellent tyres and if buying 5 they'll do you a deal to include tubes and rim tapes.

Steve

Location: North Yorkshire

Re: Tyre manufacture, just personal preference?

Definitely Longstones, and if you live somewhere near they'll fit them free and even give you a cuppa!
Also worth a look at whatever cars they have in.

Location: Near M1 Jtn 28

Re: Tyre manufacture, just personal preference?

I am with Steve, I have changed all my Austin seven tyres to Longstone after fitting to one car.
They improve the driving experience.
For me they cannot be improved upon.

Nick

Location: The Centre of the Universe

Re: Tyre manufacture, just personal preference?

After three sets of Avons my RP now runs on Longstones. I concur. I presume the Ruby tyres will have a different tread pattern to the 19" tyres which are more suited to the earlier cars.

Location: Gard, France 30960

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I agree - Longstone tyres.

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Would you mean those please?

Location: Brittany

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Yep,longstones for me had 5 for the box,ordered over phone and quick delivery.

Location: 51.9000*N ,0.4333*W (LUTON)

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renaud
Would you mean those please?


Not those!
The block tread type is 19 inch diameter so not for Rubies.


Longstone do a 17 inch tyre specifically for Rubies and it's a faithful copy of the original tread design......




http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/400-425x17-longstone.html

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Any recomendation on 16's from anyone. Im looking at buying a set. The Avon SM looks good but is a motorcycle tyre. Anyone used them?

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What tyre pressures do you use with the Longstones Brian?

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I went to Longstones, they recommended their own tyres which the have had made specially for Sevens. Tee, interesting chat and IIRC they put in 20psi

Re: Tyre manufacture, just personal preference?

Thanks, all useful input, think I will do a bit more research as also run a model t also due tyres so may be able to put a deal together for a complete two sets.

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I've got Blockley tyres on the Seven, but can't comment on how it behaves as it's not on the road yet, I can however tell you that the Blockley tyres on my special,(not Austin), are wonderful and I can't praise them enough. Alf

Location: Hampshire

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Duncan Grimmond
I went to Longstones, they recommended their own tyres which the have had made specially for Sevens. Tee, interesting chat and IIRC they put in 20psi


Duncan, I had a reply direct from Longstones regarding their 19" tyre pressures. They recommend 30psi not 20.

Can't say regarding the 17" tyres which are completely different. Avons should run 22-24psi

Location: Gard, France 30960

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I am afraid to mention (considering the above leaning to Longstones) that I have EXcelsior tyres fitted to my cars. If you buy them at Beauliue auto jumble from North hampshire tyres (Fleet) you don't pay the dreaded VAT.

Location: Oakley ,Hants

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Hi Alf,

Blockley don't make a tyre to fit the Ruby though which takes a 4.00 x 17". The only 17" tyre Blockley produce is a 6.00/6.50 and they're £199 each.

Jeff.

Location: Almost but not quite, the far North East of England

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Tyre pressures oops. Sorry, I must have been thinking of the Pembleton

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Henry Harris
renaud
Would you mean those please?


Not those!
The block tread type is 19 inch diameter so not for Rubies.


Longstone do a 17 inch tyre specifically for Rubies and it's a faithful copy of the original tread design......




http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/400-425x17-longstone.html


Thanks Henry.

I should have mentioned I'm looking for 350x19 not 400x17. This is not for an A7 sorry!
Longstone also sell Avon of course. Longstone & Avon are priced similarly in 350x19. Could one emphasize please why one would favour Longstones against Avon for example? I was tempted to buy Avon MKII.
Renaud

Location: Brittany

Re: Tyre manufacture, just personal preferen

Longstones are a car tyre.
Avon are motorcycle tyres
Alan can fill in the details


C

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I've clocked 120,000 miles plus in my RP, on two-and-a-bit sets set of Avon Sidecars.

Location: Herefordshire, with an "E", not a "T".

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Good point Martin, Avon has served the A7 movement for many years (when nobody else bothered), I am very grateful to them - in fact, most of my cars still have Avons on them.

I fitted Longstones to my Chummy some years back however and LOVE them - so much so that from now on I will be fitting Longstones when the Avons run out, they look fab but more importantly, ride incredibly well.

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As noted- Avon Sidecar tyres have been the saviour of early Austin motoring for many years and with the flat tread profile give a car like performance.

Here I believe some sensitive souls grind off the 'sidecar' marking but this is a bit of a w*nk because the style is so well known.

We have a few Longstones in use now but the majority still use Avons.

Tony.

Location: Malvern, Melbourne, Australia.

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All observations on the relative ride and handling of the various tyres on more or less stock full height cars are of interest. And any comparison with older tyres. I am always astonished at the adamant claims for great stability and freedom of deviation for unmodified stock cars on poor surfaces. I assume that the very pliable walls of many modern tyres cause these to behave with reduced camber steer much as radials. I have heard owners of pre war American cars report notable improvement in handling with new (crossply) tyres.

Enquiries here about ten years ago suggested various inexpensive motor cycle tyres available.

Here the w.o.f (MOT) rules applied to the letter would seem to ban tyres marked sidecar, motorcycle etc or with any details ground out.

What are local experiences?

Location: Auckland, NZ

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Dave, I have been running the Longstones at 22psi as usually recommended for A7 tyres but have read somewhere that Longstones should be run at higher pressures. (I've got it written down somewhere but my Box is on axle stands at the moment so it a bit academic)
Just found my note about Longstones tyre pressures and agree with earlier comment re 30 psi.

Location: Near M1 Jtn 28

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Charles P
Longstones are a car tyre.
Avon are motorcycle tyres
Alan can fill in the details
C

Thanks Charles. I did not realize that because my needs are for the Sandford three-wheeler (circa 1927) of my late father that I'm restoring. In fact sidecar tyres are well suited for those in-between vehicles.
Thanks for the tips and sorry to have strayed from A7 topics...
Renaud

Location: misty Brittany

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Jeff Taylor
Hi Alf,

Blockley don't make a tyre to fit the Ruby though which takes a 4.00 x 17". The only 17" tyre Blockley produce is a 6.00/6.50 and they're £199 each.

Jeff.

Wow Jeff my tyres were not that price when I bought them. If my memory serves me well, I think I got 5 for £360 or thereabouts. This was five years ago now, but I can't see how they would have jumped to that price. Alf

Location: Hampshire

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Alf Tudge
Jeff Taylor
Hi Alf,

Blockley don't make a tyre to fit the Ruby though which takes a 4.00 x 17". The only 17" tyre Blockley produce is a 6.00/6.50 and they're £199 each.

Jeff.

Wow Jeff my tyres were not that price when I bought them. If my memory serves me well, I think I got 5 for £360 or thereabouts. This was five years ago now, but I can't see how they would have jumped to that price. Alf


Different sizes, very different prices. Jeff is correct. Check the website.

Ian Mc.

Location: Shropshire

Re: Tyre manufacture, just personal preference?

If you were looking for 400x17s Howard Annett supplies them to Tony Betts and Tony Lesley at a very good price

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After 50+ years of Avons (SM & sidecar triple duty) with a lot supplied by Longstones which gave excellent service. 3 years ago I tried a set of Longstones on one of our RNs and found the rear end wallowed round corners so I phoned Longstones for their advice, they said start at 30 PSI and to forget Austin's recommended tyre pressure. I eventually ended up at 35 PSI which improved but didn't cure things, so I swapped them onto another car with similar results and finally ended up with two cars with Longstones on the front and Avons on the rear. I then started to see what other cars were fitted with and found quite a few with Longstones on the front and Avons on the rear. They seem to wear well and are easy to fit, with my plates of meat I usually have difficulty getting the inner tube valve into it's hole not so with these tyres.

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I'm a fan of Blockley 19 x 3.50, they are a bit softer and grippier but probably don't last as many miles, no problem if you're not a high mileage driver.

Location: Isle of Wight

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A recent problem with a set of five new Avon tyres- there was a small foil label inside at least two tyres and when using softish 'chinese'? tubes the end of the label lifted and ate its way into the tube causing a puncture.

I am waiting for the other three to collapse

Tony.

Location: Malvern, Melbourne, Australia.

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I understand that motorcycle tyres can be used on Austin 7s as this would keep the cost down.as I see it if the profile is flat there should not be a problem.I saw a set on Amazon last summer at £120 ,wish I had got them then.Lets save money

Location: north yorks

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Avon Triple Duty Sidecar 3.50 x 19TT - nice flat tread- fitted to all my 1928/9 Seven's.

Tony.

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John, if they have a flat profile, I don't think they're motorcycle tyres.

When, as an ignorant teenager, I put my first Seven on the road I made the big mistake of using motorcycle tyres as an "economy" measure. In ordinary use they were worn out in about 3 months.

It's been Avon Sidecars ever since.

Location: Herefordshire, with an "E", not a "T"!

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Many thanks Toni.We talk the same talk. I am just completing rebuilding the front axle so a good bit of money has gone into it.I have had the wheels powder coated as well.
Cheers John

Location: north yorks

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Thanks for that Martin,I am on it.
Cheers John

Location: north yorks

Re: Tyre manufacture, just personal preference?

I believe that Avon Triple Duty refers to combinations.
The sidecar variety.

Location: Wessex

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The advertising suggests for use on the front wheel of a sidecar bike combination - and then notes can be used for other wheels - so I assume this is the triple duty - three wheels ?

Now all is revealed!

Tony.