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Perhaps I have been misunderstood. I have no objection to restoration, in fact, a fair amount of my car work is for this purpose. I have done work on " last remaining examples" and gone to great lengths to ensure accuracy working from faded sepia-tint photographs.
However, I also build specials and while I would never destroy a perfectly sound and usable car I cannot see the problem with taking off a body shell to do this, assuming it is past recovery. The advertised one at the beginning of this thread was obviously a sound and tidy car and while I agree it is verging on sacrilege to undo the previous work, I take comfort from the thought that it is likely to end up on another chassis as a restored complete car.
If it had been a car with astonishing history I would object but it's a bit like someone in the 1960s buying a reasonable mini and putting on a Marcos shell. Not to my taste but...
You might well criticise Chris Gould for enabling hundreds of enthusiasts to create a replica Ulster but it was a sound idea in its time and probably saved hundreds of Sevens from the scrap yard.
Chopping the rear lug off a Vincent engine to fit it into a Norton Featherbed frame is another thing altogether.
There are a lot of Austin 7s around and they are an entry point to the world of engineering in that they are affordable and easy for beginners to work on. Encouraging a new generation to do their own thing is a laudable exercise and may well bring out talents for future projects.
Millimetre perfect restoration has its merits but is beyond the ability and finance of many and unless someone is going to vandalise a perfectly good example I cannot see the problem in removing a body shell as it is likely to be re-cycled.
If I could get tinypic to work I'd post some photos of the ugliest and crudest Austin 7 special I've seen for a long time. It was at le Puy Notre-Dame last weekend and I couldn't get away from its morbidly fascinating nastiness!
I will keep trying!
Location: N W Kent
Forthe record the advert came from Belgium!!
I can see that this may upset some folk but think of all those chassis lying around... and plenty of other parts too.
I view it as part of the cycle of things, someone wants a special and takes the body off. He sells it to someone with a restoration project.
Someone buys a special and wants to restore it to original, fine, let's hope they all meet in the eBay Arms for a pint!
However, if the bits went into the melting pot I really would be upset.
There are plenty of parts available to build a special, if you don't have the money or skill set to RESTORE the car back to its original spec then don't buy a heap of **** in the first place. As you can see I feel quite strongly on this one.
Location: Oakley, hants
Many people have neither the skill set or the money. Nothing could be further from my idea of fun than a manufacturer's spec rebuild.
Personally I prefer the oily rag approach, it's a good job we're not all the same.
I've not a problem with the oily rag option but that still needs a good floor pan and inner wings which were the driving force in the previous posts to build a special thus discarding the original car. When I said original spec I referred to Ruby, box , etc not some home built or even professional built special as a preference. Specials have their place, I've built one and have another in the pipeline but not st the expense of a salvageable car.
Location: Oakley, hants
I may be wrong, but the UK/ EU authorities seem to have fuelled this one, deregulate the cars and make it nigh on impossible to register a special built from parts and you have open slather for the destruction of the humble Ruby and like to build a special from. Sounds like there would be no need to register, MOT, or have any basic checks in order to put it on the road!
The sad thing about all this is the people who do not have the skills to repair the saloon rarely have the skills to build a decent special. As a result you either get half finished projects or extremely disappointing and ugly cars coming onto the market.
Have a look at this one
Location: South West London
Such a shame to see a good car broken up to build a special, when there are plenty of chassis about with documents for sale, add to that he wants to build a single seater, if that's for road use the documentation would be needed but if he wants to use it for serious competition then he will not be using that many of the original Ruby components, it would make sense to change the front axle and all the springs / shocks and may be an offset rear axle. Much better and cheaper to buy the chassis and bits you need, It looks like a case of more money than sense, I just hope he has the skills or cash needed to make a half decent car at the end off the day.
Location: Huncote on the pig
Aesthetically challenged even if well built Tony!
The shape may not be everyone's idea of perfection, nor mine.
But if you only have small pockets, you won't get anywhere near the Ulster rep on car and classic for £24.5k
For the beginner though it has everything, well built and cheap.
Use it straight away, learn a lot about how to run an austin 7. And be more clued up when you go for that pricey but pretty one.
Location: Huncote on the pig
Location: huncote on the pig