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Longest single journey in your Seven...

What is the longest journey you have completed in one day in an Austin Seven?

I am interested to know what the reason for the journey was and how you felt at the end of it (plus any titbits)! I appreciate that quite a few (in the UK ?) will have JOGLE/LEJOG experience, others much smaller distances and some way beyond, I am interested in them all.

I enjoy Austin Seven travel stories, please share yours.

I think the longest single journey I completed was in the early 1990s when I was about 20, we drove the "Ulster" in France from Cherbourg to Colmar on minor roads. I cannot remember how long it took but is must have been well over 12 hours. I had to keep stopping and going for 10 minutes sleeps throughout. My right leg cannot move in this car, the knee is jammed firmly between dashboard, wheel and body. I remember hobbling about for some time after we arrived in Colmar. The next day we continued to Stuttgart where I was forced to change the timing gears when the large one came of its taper on the camshaft.

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I would be interested to know how far John Gallon has driven in a day. Despite getting on a bit, he regularly drives long distances in his Swallow and seems to thrive on it! A better man than me.

The furthest I have driven in my 1930 Swallow Saloon is from Wokingham in Berkshire to Coventry (where the cars were bodied in the 30's). After a while the task of driving such a small enclosed car becomes arduous. The noise eventually gave me a headache and I had to keep stopping for a rest! The journey was worth while. I had been invited to a Dinner with Sir John Egan (the then Boss of Jaguar Cars) and met such luminaries as Lofty England and Bert Hadley. I remember Bert gave me some useful advise on stopping a petrol leak. My wife and I stayed overnight with the then Swallow Register President, Connie Teather who along with her husband worked closely with William Lyons in the early days. She was a lovely, kind lady.

The Journey back was uneventful excepting an occasion when I needed to do an emergency stop! The brakes had gradually worsened and I only managed to stop by rubbing the n/s front wheel along the curb!

Happy days ]

Location: Derby

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That Cherbourg to Colmar is a 530 miles journey. It is quoted to take 13 hours avoiding toll roads which I guess you did. This is with a fast modern car. I would compare with my travelling to Paris from Brest with my 2CV in the sixties. A 380 miles which took me 12 hours. This 1955 2CV would happily nearly reach 42 mph if the wind was favourable and the road going down.
Sorry, this is not an A7 story. Maybe a kind of equivalent though?

Location: Brittany

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We only used the small roads Renaud, and quite a lot of the journey I remember following the Loire. At that time the "ulster" would happily cruise at 60mph which must have helped. I have the journey recorded at home and will look it out when I am back, it was a very long journey as you can appreciate.

Ray, your trip certainly took in some names, I have never managed to get into a Swallow let alone drive it!!

Just off the phone to Jim H who has a great story to tell us, hope he posts it!

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To &from the maternity hospital in 1973.

Location: Bristol

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When I had a 1931 Swallow I regularly drove from Cornwall to the Malvern Rally in a day, that was keeping to the old A roads and didn't touch motorways. Not too stiff afterwards either. My Swallow days are over because my left leg started to play up when the clutch had to be operated. Still love them though.

Location: Just East of Sandy

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Brian Murrish
When I had a 1931 Swallow I regularly drove from Cornwall to the Malvern Rally in a day, that was keeping to the old A roads and didn't touch motorways. Not too stiff afterwards either. My Swallow days are over because my left leg started to play up when the clutch had to be operated. Still love them though.


That would be quite a trip in a Swallow, Brian especially a saloon if that is what you drove - or was it a two seater open car? I think that would be more fun.

As it happens, I now have the luxury of some quality carpets and 'Trundles' as she is called is in much better condition generally than used to be the case. Unfortunately, same can't be said for the driver!

Location: Derby

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It was in my knackered 1936 Ruby to Beaulieu and back in a day from Sheffield in the late 60's to look at the motoring library. About 450 miles there and back.The roads weren't as busy then of course.

Location: Sheffield, the home of Hendersons Relish.

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My longest run was an abortive JOGLE in 1982. After numerous fuel blockages, the PD's dynamo burned out in the early hours of the morning on the M5 near Worcester. By good fortune this was only 25 miles from home and we managed to make it back before the battery died.

The longest successful run, again in the PD, was 230-odd miles non-stop from Hereford to Dover, again in the PD. Arriving in France, with hit a huge pot-hole and with an almighty bang the grossly-overloaded tail section fractured from the front of the body just aft of the seats. We stole several yards of wire from a farmer's fence and by tying the hood frame to the windscreen pillar managed to cobble the whole thing back together sufficiently well to cover a couple of thousand miles over the next three weeks.

While this wasn't a particularly long trip, I may have some claim to highest mileage over a sustained period. In the early eighties I was working in Caerphilly and, unable to find local accommodation, I commuted daily from Hereford in the '33 RP. The round trip was about 150 miles, which I made without incident five days a week for about six months.

Location: Herefordshire, with an E not a T

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This year we drove from Goes in the Netherlands to the ferry at Zeebrugge and then the following day from Hull to home in Nottinghamshire. Not the longest journey in a seven but all done on just three cylinders. I know the land is flat in both Netherlands and Lincolnshire (the route we took home) but believe me it seem the longest journey ever. Worrying if we were going to do it. We did however and quite a testament to our little cars. The charging had also gone so we were running on just battery alone.

John Mason.

Location: Nottinghamshire

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My longest journeys were in a 1928 chummy with my long suffering wife. Three times from Nottingham to Hull for the ferry to Zeebrugge for the windmill runs, one journey on the return from Zeebrugge to Felixstowe to Nottingham and one to Newcastle for the ferry to IJmuiden for an Oldtimerdag. The return journey for this was without an overnight stop mainly down the A19.
Chummy seats are very comfortable providing a stop is made every hour or so for a leg stretch and/or cup of tea.

Location: Near M1 Jtn 28

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Hi all

This topic has always intrigued me. I recently submitted an article for the NZ VAR magazine musing on the sense of satisfaction from long or adventurous trips in a Seven, particularly in the past. May be of interest. May have to consult Google Earth. In part..

"I experienced the Seven sense of achievement with several long one day drives in my 1934 box saloon in the late 1960s. On one occasion Dunedin, Taieri Mouth, back road to Milton, Kaitangata, Balclutha, Port Molyneux, Chaslands, Bluff (all extensively metal) and direct return; about 350 miles and 10 hours driving. Prior to the trip I purchased a Shell book of maps. The impertinent young garage attendant was reluctant to accept that a local Dunedin map would not suffice for such a car!
More tedious and less satisfying, I also drove Auckland-Levin or reverse on several occasions, one indirect totalling 400 miles. Truck drivers spend longer hours at the wheel, but trucks do not require 150% concentration!
With this background, long Austin Seven drives by others have naturally caught my attention.
There was an account in VAR 1994A of an epic two day 780 mile jaunt in 1965 by Gordon Sharpe and Les Nye in the latter's 1930 Seven. The intrepid pair drove Dunedin, Dunsandel, Arthurs Pass, Kumara, south to camp on the banks of the Moeraki river, some 445 miles in an almost continuous 15 hours. Next morning they attended the opening of the Haast highway (inserting their car in the official procession!) then tootled on through to Dunedin. Much of the trip from Dunsandel around to Hawea was on gravel. I travelled to Haast in a modern in 1968; trees met above the metal road and the many streams were crossed by Bailey bridges; it was vastly different from today. The Nye Seven maintained 50 mph for long sections, and averaged 44 mph over some.
A long drive in recent times was undertaken by the late Shane Hunter. He purchased a 1937 Opal in Christchurch and drove to the Bombay hills, interrupted only by the ferry crossing, well over 600 miles total. Prudence prevailed and he had the car trailered the last few harrowing motorway miles into Auckland.
But the most momentous drive must have been that of Austin identity Gunnar Poppe, March 1928, in a standard tourer with 13½ gallon tank. Piccadilly to Edinborough, 394 miles in 10 hours, a 15 minute break, then back again, arriving 21 hours after he departed. A remarkable feat of endurance and an astonishing average for a Seven on the roads at the time, and part in the dark, with token headlamps. One thing about Sevens on varied roads less than billiard table smooth; there is no risk of dozing off!"

I was young at the time and despite 6 ft tall did not find the trips particularly taxing. Speed was not abnormally different from much other traffic. For the Chaslands trip had hydraulic sas which transformed handling on metal. Main roads were boring rather than tiring. Always with cotton wool in ears. Some trips with car well laden so ride tolerable. At the end of the day I used to feel somewhat disorientated as after spending time in a small boat, but I have found the same effect in 1950s,60s cars if driven hard and long.

Bob Culver

Location: Auckland

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Wet day, Loton Park Hillclimb.

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Probably in the early nineties, father took the fairly newly restored RP to the rally at Beaulieu.

We left Ruthin on the Thursday I recall, heading to stay with some of my mums family in Southampton. Dad, mum, me (11ish) and sister (8ish), plus luggage on the rack.

I can't remember the route, I guess it will have been worcester way, certainly we went up Birdlip.

I dont recall the car missed a beat all the way. 230-250 miles ish I guess.

Friday the car got a polish, and we had a rest etc.

Bummer was we won best in class, and furthest travelled and had to take the sodding cups back with us!. i.e on my Knee

Back home on the monday.

The other memorable journey was in my RL, about 2 years after i put it on the road. Originally it was mechanically dubious, built out of 3/4 worn out bits. The engine had come from Mick Kirkland as a 'runner', but suitably priced as it was worn, and burned copious amounts of oil.

I was driving a steam wagon for a friend at the Gloucestershire Steam Extravaganza at Kemble airfield one weekend, so I took the Austin loaded with tent, camping gear etc. Home then being Whitchurch in Shropshire.

On the friday I drove to work in Birmingham in the Austin, taking the A41 via Wolves. The car park at work had a very steep ramp and the poor old austin seemed down on power going up it, but after 50odd miles in close proximity to the straight cut box I couldnt hear anything untoward.

Then an early dart from work to Kemble. All in all, about 130 miles, arrive, erect tent etc, await arrival of girlfriend.

I went to fetch some chips from Cirencester on saturday and the poor old girl had developed a knock. Hmm.

At the rally, my girlfirend (now wife) managed to fall of my mates low loader on the sunday night, needing a trip in an ambulance to the hospital in Cirencester. Future in laws picked her up, leaving me back at the field at 9pm to drive home in a knocking austin. I wasnt in the RAC then!

I topped the oil up with some '220' bearing oil and set off. The route being Cirencester, Birdlip, Hope under Dinmore, then the A49 via Shrewsbury home.

I set off driving carefully, lot labouring her, but not reving her either, and we plodded on. I went down Birdlip in 'silent top'. approaching Hope there was a loud bang and something hit me in the leg, dipping the clutch and blipping the throttle the normal knocking was to be heard. I also noticed my leg was wet. A bottle of pop in the passenger footwell had rattled its way onto the gearbox, the heat of the box with the vibration had made it shoot the lid off.

I stopped for fuel in Hope under Dinmore somewhere about 11pm, the garage just closing (had it have been closed I'd have been there till morning as I was nearly empty), she nearly didnt start, but started on a couple and eventually all 4 kicked in. By Shrewsbury I had come to the conclusion the rods quite liked the dark and drove a bit harder. I arrived home about 2AM. About 130miles in a knocking austin later

turns out when I stripped the engine, worn main bearings were the problem, the crank was belting the crancase at the centre cam bearing. No wonder it didnt throw a rod.

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Alan
Wet day, Loton Park Hillclimb.


Problems?

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One of my longest runs was at the start of the Monte Carlo Run organised by the Brooklands Centre of the 750 Motor Club in May 1974. Starting from Alton in Hampshire I drove to Epsom for the start (40 miles). Then to Dover to catch the night ferry (83 miles). No sleep on the ferry because I was helping to fix a dynamo. Off the ferry at Calais then driving through the night via Compiègne (brief nap) and much of the day to Saint-Dizier (277 miles) where I picked up my co-driver. A total of 400 miles. One odd thing was that, in the middle of the night, the engine seemed to keep cutting out then starting up again. I eventually realised that it was me, falling asleep, then waking up because I thought the engine had stopped…

David

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sadly I've still not a roadgoing seven but when we were collecting our WOC Ruby in 1983 Hamburg Germany on a flatbed Hanomag-Henshel we had an adventure. On the way to Hamburg the HH threw a rod near Bremen, but got it to Hamburg, kind off rebuild the engine, loaded the WOC on the back and drove back to Delft in Holland in about 10 hours,with 3 working piston and 1 empty cilinder with the broken rod and piston in the dashboard. We did use the HH for a other year for all kinds off transports, then the APK (MOT) was introduced en the HH went to the scrapyard. We still keep the broken rod and piston as a trophy. Not really a seven story but seven related. reg Dirk

Location: Behind the dykes

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The SA7 club's day light road rally, opps sorry, run. In a lovely, borrowed Pearl, trying to keep up with an enthusiastically driven chummy, whilst not breaking said borrowed car..............

It seemed like a long way, although I think it was only about 50 miles in total. By the time we got back to the show site in a thunder storm, having stopped to guess how to put the hood up, I was tiered! My 5 year old son was left in the car asleep for nearly an hour as it was easier than trying to extract him from the brilliantly fitted child seat.

Thank you for trusting me with your car!

Stuart.

Location: Devon

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I did the same as David C, except my trip to the start of the Monte run was from Cambridge. I had a knocking noise that I couldn't identify all the way down there - turned out it was a wheel that had come loose, but thankfully had decided, in a sprit of great kindness, to stay attached to the car. I had had a puncture a couple of days before we set off and hadn't had time to mend it. I went all the way to Monte and back with a punctured spare but was working on the principle that the easiest thing to borrow if I had another was a spare wheel.. Thankfully, I didn't need to do that either. Like David, we drove through the night. I didn't fall asleep, however, as I was following the Nippy of Simon Howe, driven by Alistair Frayling-Cork that, even by then, was burning so much oil, the acrid smoke stung my eyes and kept me awake (the Nippy was using so much by the time we got to Monte, Alistair was going round everyone who was changing oil, cadging their second hand stuff) I remember we drove until about 4am then came across a random check point set up by the organisers. At that point, we decided we had had enough and went to sleep in the car, only to wake a couple of hours later. I have a photo somewhere of a group of us standing round my Primus Stove having a brew. We all look completely wrecked. And we camped every night, none of this hotels organised in advance!

Location: Cambridge

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Great thread.

Not the longest journey, but an indication of the fun that can be had most weekends.

My daughter and daughter-in-law wanted to have a go at a navigational challenge, so we went to the MGCC Naviscat near Tumbridge Wells.

Our poor little Box Saloon had a long day. We left Towcester at 6am - through central London to the start. 4.5 hours.

The rally was 3 hours of driving.

Then back home, round the outside of London this time. It was very dark and raining all the way (standard 6v dynamo set up). It took us 6 hours (including McDonalds stop). We got back at 10pm and all had a great day.

Can't wait for the Nightjar.

Regards,
Colin

Location: Towcester

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The 1997 Jogle ranks as my personal best. Perhaps this is a bit of a cheat as I shared the driving with my co-driver Lee, swapping every 100 miles. The Jogle was 860 mies with another 50 miles to Lee's fathers home in North Cornwall, all within 24 hours. I didn't find it particularly uncomfortable but the last hour was the worst because of cold thick fog. Strangely this made in almost impossible to stay awake and necessitated loud singing to keep the mind active! Otherwise the trip was completely uneventful. The car ran so well that I was reluctant to stop using it after our return home the following day. Total mileage over the weekend was around 1300, with no need to top up oil or water!

For longer term achievements "Fearless Frank" Cheaney must be difficult to beat. His lifetime of Austin usage in the USA included a 3-month period in 1933 when he covered 20000 miles in his American Austin pick up. Later in 1967 he covered 10000 miles in 2 months on a trip from Florida to Montreal.

Location: Inverness

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I think the longest I've done in my RP in a day was the second leg of my journey to the top of the Col de la Bonnette, or at least it seemed so!

After an early breakfast in Nice we set off up the Var valley to climb the Col from the south side, got to the summit at about 11.30am, dropped down to Jausiers and then had a lunch in Barcelonnette before setting back home, getting back to Château Rekkers about 7.30pm

According to Google maps that's about 430km in one go, roughly 270 miles. Nothing like doing the LE-JOG but in terms of up & down quite a bit of climbing (sea level to 2808 meters on the col)

Location: Sarf of Frogland

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In the mid 1960s I was a mechanical engineering student at Dundee
University and used Austin Sevens as my transport. I lived near Cambridge
so regularly did the 400 mile trip up and down. Mostly these were fairly
uneventful and usually took 12 or 14 hours. In winter an early start with a
well charged battery was needed. By dawn the lights were dimming but the
battery revived during daylight but was dimming again by journey's end.

Some trips do however stick in the memory.

Initially I had a 1930 fabric saloon which lasted me a year and served
me well until the body disintegrated as so often happens with these, I
kept the remains for a long time and the car - UR 7179 - is still on the
lists but as a chummy.
I then had a Mk 2 Ruby, BVE 18 with an engine I'd made up out of bits
and pieces and was one of the liveliest and smoothest I've had. The car
was indecently quick. However the hard driving and Dundee cobbles were
too much for it. The axle split on the king-pin eye and several crankcase
studs pulled out.
I then met a wonderful eccentric named Walter Vogelsanger who had a shop
on the Hawkhill from which he restored and sold bubble cars to the sound of
pianolas powered by cylinder vacuum cleaners. He collected things and had
a large shed near Dundee which was a real Aladin's cave. There were two
hearses, one being horse-drawn, all the instruments from a failed brass
band and all sorts of other stuff including two Austin Sevens. One was a
1934 4-seater tourer AUN 912 with a tooth missing from its crown wheel and
a MK1 Ruby RG 6968 which seemed pretty sound. I bought them both for £35.
I sold the Ruby on to an unsuspecting fellow student but revived the
tourer after a real struggle to get the brakes to do anything noticeable
and it was a very lax MoT inspector who eventually passed it. It had a
badly worn Bowdenex conversion which never worked properly.

At Dundee I met a number of like-minded people with interesting cars.
My friend Dudley had a very nice 1933 MG J2 and had previously been a
Ruby owner. George had a 1948 Hillman Minx which was pretty dire with
totally unpredictable Bendix brakes. If all 4 worked they were excellent.
Unfortunately this was by no means guaranteed. Sometimes one brake would
do nothing which was not too bad if it was on the back. If the front very
scarey! Occasionally nothing whatsoever happened which once caused us to
shoot across the A92/Riverside Avenue roundabout at Invergowrie at near
terminal velocity. Fortunately nothing was coming. Alarming.
Dudley and I then worked on George and persuaded him to buy a 1934 Box
Saloon, SR 9106, from near Auchterhouse by Dundee. He still has it and
very nice it is too.
A7 Line-up photo AustinLine-up_zps1a14e4e1.jpg
Box saloon and J2 MG photo J2ampBox_zps471e874c.jpg
The really memorable journeys were in the 1934 tourer.

The first in December 1966 on what turned out to be the coldest night of
the winter.
I'd hauled the tourer out of the shed and revived it but the hood had
disintegrated in storage. I came upon one from a 4-seat Morris 8, but it
only fitted where it touched and was very draughty. I wore everything I
could and drove the A1 on hand throttle trying to keep my feet from freezing
by putting them on the gearbox.
A1 Dec 1966 photo Dec1966_zps34ccd669.jpg
Undoubtedly the longest journey was on Friday 6th January 1967.

Dudley had driven up from Surrey and George from Peckham to my home
at Barley near Cambridge the day before, ready for an early start.
George's car was untaxed as he'd left the log book behind in Dundee. He'd
already been stopped and reminded by the police in Sidcup. He told them
the tax was in the post and then hastily applied for a new disc by post
and said the log book was lost. Thus a duplicate was waiting in Dundee
with the tax disc. Things were more accommodating then.

It started badly at 3:00 am. I bump started the car down the drive to
save the battery and was amazed when the sidelights flood-lit the garden
then went out, while the ignition warning light lit up the interior with an
eerie red light.
This initiated me into the mysteries of 3 brush dynamos. It took me ages
to discover the problem. One cell of the battery had failed and gone open
circuit causing the dynamo to drive the voltage up and blow the sidelight
bulbs.
I shorted out the dead cell with a length of wire and searched the
garage for sidelight bulbs. I found 2, one for the front, one for the back.
There was an old 6-volt pretty dead battery that didn't fit the battery
box which I put on the floor below my knees.

Eventually off we went at 7am on a cold grey dawn. I was running on 4 volts
with a very dubious old 6volt battery as reserve.
When daylight came, at the now disappeared Norman Cross roundabout on the
A1. I connected the second battery on the floor under my knees using wire
wrapped round the posts to charge it during daylight.
The run to Scotch Corner was uneventful, although Dudley felt a bit
frustrated as his J2 was far faster than the sevens - especially Georges.
We took petrol at Scotch Corner at 4pm just as a freezing red sun was
setting and we headed for the A68, Carter Bar and Edinburgh. Between there
and Edinburgh we encountered everything in the way of weather apart from
thunder & lightning. Rain, snow, ice, fog . . .

In the dark Dudley lead in the MG with its 12 volt lights, I was in the
middle as I only had 2 sidelight bulbs and a very dead battery. I drove on
sidelights with gaze fixed on the MG's lights ahead. George brought up the
rear with a full complement of lights.

As we climbed over the A68 it started to rain. I noticed that the MG
was driving very erratically which seemed odd. I operated the wiper
manually to conserve power. The rain got heavier and I was forced to turn
the wiper on. Somewhere near Ridsdale a car coming the other way with
headlights full on dazzled me on a bend. I had to brake hard and the wire
fell off the battery and the engine, lights & wiper cut out. I think I'd
locked the back wheels with the brakes. The front brakes were pretty useless
on this car with it's very poor Bowdenex conversion. I lost sight of the MG
in front and was left scrabbling for wires on the battery under my knees.
Once the panic was over and things had returned to 'normal' I had to turn
on headlights to see what was happening. To my amazement the road was white.
That rain was actually snow and the MG was struggling with lack of grip and,
it turned out later, a seized king-pin making the steering very notchy. It
also explained how I'd managed to lock the back wheels and stall the engine.
Also proved that Austins out-perform MGs on snow!

At Edinburgh we parted company with Dudley as he had the speed. George
was really knackered. Worse still his Seven's lights were beginning to fade
as the battery ran down. I didn't really have any.
Crossing Fife heading for the then recently opened Tay Road Bridge George
seemed to upset some road works as he remembers seeing some red oil lamps
flying past the passenger side window! I never saw them at all.

We arrived in Dundee at about 10:30pm and collapsed in our rooms in
Belmont Hall.
We couldn't even be bothered to visit Greasy Pete's across the Hawkhill
for a fish supper.

A very long drive that seemed much more than 400 miles.

We had fun as students in the '60s!

Location: Melrose, Scottish Borders

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Like John. Mason we attended the Windmills trip to Goes on the island of Zeeland, Holland. The return journey in one day was 350 miles via the Chunnel, quite uneventful except that the. Sat Nav decided to lock up as we entered Belgium and would not reboot until the battery went flat 2 hrs later. Thank god for Boy Scouts as my acient training came to the rescue, sun was up and with the help of the wife's watch we were heading SSW with the added benifit of if we went to far north we would hit the beach.
We also attended the Loire trip with the 750 club which was 1700 miles over two weeks, the longest driving day was I believe 190 miles on flat straight Northern France roads.

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I drove my RP down here to southern France from Sheffield in late 2001. The journey took me four days. The longest leg was the UK stretch from Sheffield to Folkestone (I bought a day return for the shuttle to get across) which was about 280 miles, using the A & B road network to avoid motorways. The next day we drove from Sangatte to Troyes, the last part in the dark because we'd originally planned stopping the night in Chalons sur Marne but everywhere was full. The third day we drove from Troyes to just south of Lyon, following the Seine valley, and then the final leg on day four got us to Château Rekkers in the Cévennes in the mid afternoon. A total distance of just over 1000 miles.

I am thinking of doing a round trip to Santiago di Compostela next year, which I reckon will take me about a week. It's 1400km from here.

Location: Sarf of Frogland

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Avoid the roads around Bilbao if possible Reckless. Nightmareish.

Location: Wessex

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A Side to Side is my longest single journey/one day drive. 451 miles in 12 hours. Here is an abridged version of an article that appeared in the 750MC Bulletin after the event.

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Left to right: Ken & Eileen Cooke, Janet Edroff & Gill Davies, Robert & Fenella Leigh, Nick Salmon

Lowestoft to Lands End Side to Side Run. April 11th 2009

The run was to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the 750 Motor Club and 40th anniversary of the Austin Seven Clubs Association.

Saturday dawned misty and damp and at 6.45am Ness Point looked even more bleak and gloomy than the day before, being a nondescript bit of concrete promenade sandwiched between a gasometer and a huge wind turbine in the industrial area of the town. Biz Bissell from the Norfolk Centre of the 750MC had already set up the start and Ken & Eileen Cooke and I took the opportunity to drive our cars down to the circular marker that declares the location to be the easternmost point of the UK.

Photographs completed we drove back up the slope to the starting point and I was just sorting last minute bits and pieces when Biz said ‘Do you want to go?’ As I wanted to get as much daylight as possible I said ‘Yes’ without hesitation and on the stroke of 7am I set forth, the first car away.

I had reckoned on taking about 14 hours but it soon became clear that the roads were very quiet and once out of Lowestoft I was able to press on at a reasonable cruising speed. I’d intended as Plan A to take the A12 down through Ipswich to the M25 and then round to the M3 before joining the A303 but on the spur of the moment decided to follow a route I had mapped out some weeks before and written out as a set of directions for each major turning.

I’d decided not to stop for anything other than petrol and pee breaks and to sustain myself on the packed lunch the Harbour Light’s landlady had given me instead of the ‘full english’ that was part of the b&b deal. Thanks goodness she did as otherwise I would have expired from malnutrition and dehydration somewhere around Exeter...

The run itself was totally uneventful. Just a steady drive at comfortable speeds, not pushing the car, or the driver, too hard. I was glad of the earplugs I had thought to bring as they dulled the rattle and roar of the mechanicals and got rid of the repetitive swish of modern cars hurrying by. The only holdups were at Stonehenge where the traffic queued for several miles in each direction, and on the M5 where there had been a multiple collision and the traffic was crawling by the scene.

It was about 4pm when it occurred to me that I might be able to crack the journey in under 12 hours and with that thought in mind I put in a fast average for the hour, of 42 mph. As anyone who has driven to Cornwall knows, you get to Exeter and think you don’t have a lot further to go – whereas the reality is that there are miles and miles ahead of you. It also feels as if every hill around Exeter only goes one way - up.

The sun was lowering in the sky as I came over Bodmin Moor, magnificently rugged, bare, and desolate. Not a place you’d want to breakdown. To welcome me to Cornwall the ignition light came on, meaning something amiss with the dynamo, but I chose to ignore it on the basis that I shouldn’t be needing the headlights if all went according to plan. Turned out to be a dirty commutator (must remember to wash behind my commutator in future!) which was soon put right at journey’s end.

On past Redruth and the familiar Cornish signature began to appear – the ruined chimneys and stone buildings of long-abandoned tin mines. There are unbelievable numbers of them; monuments to a great industrial past. Just after 6.30pm I skirted Penzance and lunged into the last 10 miles, praying that I wouldn’t get stuck behind someone out for a leisurely evening drive.

The roads had narrowed and stone walls lay in wait if enthusiasm outweighed care on the twisty switchback of these last miles but all was well and at 6.55pm I pulled into the driveway to the Lands End complex. A queue of cars lay ahead of me waiting to pay their entrance charge but I zipped round them and buzzed down the coaches lane, studiously ignoring the staff at the pay booth.

Then, horror. Where was the finish??? I ran into the complex (ran is an exaggeration, after that length of time in the driving seat I hobbled) but couldn’t see anyone, so a quick phone call to Andrew Jarmin, the marshal from the Cornwall Austin Seven Club, elicited they were ‘round the corner’.

I quickly drove there and was greeted by Andrew and his wife and friends as the ‘first one home’ with a finish time of 7pm. Exactly 12 hours from start to finish. Having left in murk I arrived on a stunningly beautiful evening with not a breath of wind, a calm sea, blue skies and the sun dipping to the horizon. It was a perfect end to the day – made all the more perfect when I was presented with a bottle of brandy for being the first to arrive and invited to join the Cornish team for a very welcome dinner.

Yes, I got the odd bit of numb bum and aching leg but in general the Ruby is remarkably comfortable. The fact that it covered that distance without any major malfunction is also pretty remarkable and I reckon Sir Herbert would be mighty proud of his ‘Dependable Austin’ 73 years on from the day it was first put on the road.

Stats:
Hour Distance Covered

1 37
2 41
3 40
4 31
5 43
6 41
7 26
8 35
9 40
10 42
11 37
12 38

451 miles in 12 hours. Avg speed 37.58 mph.

Approx 10 gallons of fuel - £38.47. 45.1 miles per gallon. Approx 4 pints oil used.

Route:
Lowestoft, A146 to Norwich, A11 to Newmarket, A14 to Cambridge, A428 to St Neots, A421 to Bedford/Milton Keynes/Buckingham, A4421 to Bicester, A41/A34 to Oxford/Newbury/Whitchurch, A303 to Andover/Honiton, A30 to Exeter, M5 round Exeter, rejoin A30 to Lands End.

Location: North Herts

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Great stories, please keep sharing.

Peter can you tell us more about Fearless Fred please?

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I very much enjoy this post. Incidentally I'd like more shots of the Leigh's car I find lovely if there are any somewhere?
Thanks!
Renaud

Location: Sunny Brittany again!

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Good to see a picture of Bob Leigh. I bought my fabric saloon (mentioned above) from him. The fount of Austin Seven knowledge in Cambridge and great tea drinker acted as agent in the deal.
I went all over the highlands in the car.
Here it is on Drumochter Pass just before its last journey South.

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The body was well on the way out. The wheel-arches had collapsed and the driver's door had to be tied shut. Entry & exit via passenger side. It had lost its starting handle, I blame Dundee cobbles! It also had a failed dynamo so it did this final tour after exams were done and the whole 400 miles to Cambridge running off the battery with no charging.
I ran out of petrol just short of home and coasted into a petrol station in Arrington. That was the first time in over 500 miles the starter failed to turn it over. 6 volts works pretty well really!

Location: Melrose, Scottish Borders

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Looking at a Route Planner on the net, it's approx., 512 miles, each way.
This was in Oct 1967, I drove by myself from Winchester up to Inverkeilor (twixt Arbroath and Montrose), leaving early Friday morning, arrived after midnight and I slept under a hedge in my Gran's garden.. Drove back on the Sunday, again leaving (very) early morning, to be back for work on Monday morning. DON'T ask me why I did this, I don't know why, like a lot of things I did in the 60's.

I drove up the east coast way, so must have involved the M1, certainly went through Jedburgh, etc., coming back I recall Motherwell around 5am as the tab on the outside of the dizzy earthed itself to the metal casing.
e.g I stopped.. it took a little time to resolve with a weak torch...
I think part of the M5 was involved, which stopped at the M50, thus down to Cheltenham and on down through Cirencester etc.,

I got back to Winchester about 11pm, and I remember stopping* at a pub at the top of a hill south of the now M4 near Chisledon, and a pint going straight down , not touching the sides of the throat, another pint ordered within seconds... * Actually the car only just got up the hill due to a burnt out valve.

My family in Scotland still talk about me turning up, un-anounced and that the area in Gran's garden were I slept was over he cess pit.....

THIS IS THE 6TH attempt with the code...

Location: The very edge of Europe - West.

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Not very long, but approx., 200 miles each way, Winchester to Sheffield and back over a number of week (also weak) end....
Then common sense and something more local took over.......

Again in the mid 1960's, I knew, including the biblical sense, a nurse in Sheffield, so would pop up there.

I can certainly remember feeling the heat from the steel works through the car windows as I left Sheffield around 4 am to get back to Winchester for work Monday morning.

Both these entries were in my bog standard '34 RP, CG 7241.

Location: The very edge of Europe - West.

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I missed out the name of the agent in my deal for UR 7179 with Bob Leigh. It was Ray Walker who had his famous Austin Seven establishment in Perowne Street for very many years. He was the cause of a very high A7 population in Cambridge. A great character.

Location: Melrose, Scottish Borders

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Uhmn, ready R's OP, with details, I have written the trips up somewhere else, so will have to locate them.....
Yes, also the JoGLE, solo in under 24 hours, but that also included an hour's sleep at Exeter, so I can only claim 750 miles as a single journey, though I did stop approx., every 3 hours, 120 miles, for taking on and letting out liquids, etc.,

Location: The very edge of Europe - West.

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Jim, it was Ray Walker who had my 'CG 7241' in his barn for many years, 1976 - 1999, I found my old car through a Probate notice on the web, 3 weeks after the auction, it took me 4 years to track it down through 4 further, short term, owners before I bought it back again - it's long tale of it's disappearance in the early 70's.

Location: The very edge of Europe - West.

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Ian Dunford
Avoid the roads around Bilbao if possible Reckless. Nightmareish.


Provisional route will be from here (Alès) down to Montpellier, Lodève Castres, Toulouse and Auch, then over the Pyrennées to Pamplona and then to Burgos and Santiago.

Nothing fixed as yet because I will need a pass-out from the Mem'Sahib first and I will have to save up a few beer tokens too. The idea is to try and follow the pilgrimage route from my neck of the woods (it starts near to Arles)as closely as possible and without going on motorways. A lot of the pilgrimage route is closed to motor vehicles so I will have to improvise.

Location: Sarf of Frogland

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Why did your Gran make you sleep under a hedge on top of a cesspit Sandy?

Location: Wessex

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Reckless Rat
Ian Dunford
Avoid the roads around Bilbao if possible Reckless. Nightmareish.


Provisional route will be from here (Alès) down to Montpellier, Lodève Castres, Toulouse and Auch, then over the Pyrennées to Pamplona and then to Burgos and Santiago.

Nothing fixed as yet because I will need a pass-out from the Mem'Sahib first and I will have to save up a few beer tokens too. The idea is to try and follow the pilgrimage route from my neck of the woods (it starts near to Arles)as closely as possible and without going on motorways. A lot of the pilgrimage route is closed to motor vehicles so I will have to improvise.

Hmm Reckless, aren't you supposed to make the pilgrimage on foot?
Renaud

Location: Sunny Brittany

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Preston to Lands End for the 1997 JOgle about 400miles in my RP saloon

I also did the Lowestoft to LE in 2009 in another RP but 2 days for me as my wife was navigating.

However the highlight of this thread is that it features a 7 that I owned after Jim Holyoake. I purchased AYN 912 around 1969 from a guy called Spradbrow for £100. By then it was green and had all the teeth on the crownwheel and pinion together with a reasonable hood. Viewing prior to purchase, I noticed a pool of oil on the garage floor and enquired if the engine had an oil leak to which the reply came "no it was just that it had had a recent careless oil change". It didn't take long to discover that a spare gallon can of oil was required to complete any journey over 20 miles! I then sold it and purchased a Riley RMA

David

Location: The foothills of the Surrey Alps

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Jim Holyoake
It was Ray Walker who had his famous Austin Seven establishment in Perowne Street for very many years. He was the cause of a very high A7 population in Cambridge. A great character.


You may be interested to see this post from Facebook by his son just two days ago...

"Gerald Raymond Walker

Yesterday at 10:45am

A bit of nostalgia from the early 1960s. The yard of Ray Walker's garage in Perowne Street, Cambridge. Some interesting Sevens in the left hand photo. 1922 Chummy at the front and, on the row behind, a 1931 boat tailed 2 seater and a Gordon England Stadium. The large car at the back is a 1939 1.5 litre SS Jaguar."


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WOW! That brings back memories!
Ray liked to use XK Jaguars which were then very cheap and usually rusty. I went with him viewing various cars in the one in the 2nd picture.
Apart from the yard and the row of garages as in the picture he had a range of barns full of interesting stuff. I was tempted by a 4-seater Arrow in about 1985 but ended up with Nippy ARB 912 from Norfolk.
One day, when I was there with a friend, he went and got a big aluminium cast engine side plate and asked us to guess what it was. He then took us into another shed where he had a huge 37.2HP Hispano-Suiza.
Happy days!

Location: Melrose, Scottish Borders

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I'm sure we could start an entire thread just about Ray. A real character and, as has already been said here, almost entirely responsible for the hot spot of Austin 7 ownership in Cambridge. I still have my first Austin 7, purchased in 1970 and 'brokered' by Ray...

Location: Cambridge

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Having just put my tea break to good use, I was interested to see the current status of some of the cars in Ray Walker's yard.

Of the six with legible number plates, The AB tourer OR 2996 and the '29 AE tourers UW 815 and UW 3791 are all on the A7CA register.

The '26 tourer YB 7720 is on the DVLA database, but not on the Register.

Of RP saloon JR 2213 and ARR Ruby BNG 51 I can find no trace. They may of course still be around, though defunct for long enough not to appear on DVLA records. I have a feeling that I may have seen the Ruby on Ebay a while ago. At least the registrations don't appear to have been pillaged for use on a modern.

Location: Herefordshire, with an E not a T

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I misquoted my Nippy registration it was ARB 428. I sold it about 1997/8 in Weston-Super Mare and it isn't on any list I've seen.
I also got my Ruby BVE 18 from Ray. I dismantled it having rolled it into a field on a dark night and it having a load of other problems too. The chassis was a trailer for a long time.

Location: Melrose, Scottish Borders

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Jim Holyoake
I misquoted my Nippy registration it was ARB 428. I sold it about 1997/8 in Weston-Super Mare and it isn't on any list I've seen.
I also got my Ruby BVE 18 from Ray. I dismantled it having rolled it into a field on a dark night and it having a load of other problems too. The chassis was a trailer for a long time.



Jim - Sadly ARB 428 is now on a 2007 Jaguar XK. The vandals have obviously got to it.

Location: Herefordshire, with an E not a T

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I will try to load a few pictures of the Ulsteroid. It goes to mainland Europe quite regularly, usually to participate in something, particularly the Fougeres Rally, Chanteloup-les-Vignes Hillclimb and the Vintage Revival at Montlhery. It has also been to Italy and Scandinavia, driven round the old Mille Miglia course in 2004, and done the Gardesloppet in Stockholm twice. It was trailered to Italy, but under its own steam for other events.
Now to try and load some pictures!
Sorry, it'll have to wait; it seems I need a photobucket album whatever that is. If someone gives me some instructions I can understand in words of one syllable it may be possible.

Robert Leigh

Location: Cottenham, Cambridge

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Robert,

If you email me your photos I will be very happy to upload them here for you.

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It's great to know you are still interested in Sevens. I thought of you when I went to Barley recently in our Riley Lynx. We still have three Sevens, a Ruby I bought in 1976, a 1928 mag engine Chummy and the Ulsteroid pictured in the side to side picture from Nick Salmon. Incidentally we did the trip a little faster than Nick despite the mistake of using the North Circular round London (shan't do that again!). I seem to remember Ray Walker telling me that I had put the pistons in the fabric saloon the wrong way round; sorry about that. I think it was a kitchen table job after a few pints!
Incidentally it's time for the Ruby to go to a new home; we have less garaging since moving 2 years ago. But to get back to the subject of this thread we did 875 miles in 24 hours on the Jogle in 1982. I got married 3 weeks earlier and told everyone including Fenella that I planned to do the trip in 36 hours. I thought she would not help with the driving if I mentioned 24 hours. We had reached Exeter when she asked where I planned to put the tent up; it was only then that I said we had made such good time that we must carry on and do it in 24 hours. She said if that was my intention I could do the rest myself, which I did. This included going though Plymouth to avoid Bodmin Moor, because someone said to me that they would not drive a Ruby over that route. We returned over the Moor and wondered why we had worried!
Clarice, the Ruby, has also been to Andorra and Berlin as well as many other continental trips.
Incidentally YB7720 is on the Association Register, and owned by Mary Walker, being driven by her in her nineties at our recent Car of the Year show and driving tests.

Robert Leigh

Location: Cottenham, Cambridge

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Good to hear from you Robert. I seem to remember changing a couple of pistons because the skirt was breaking up around the split! Very pleased to hear Mary is still driving her Seven around Cambridge. I used to see it about from time to time before I moved away 4 years ago.

Location: Melrose, Scottish Borders

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Robert Leigh

Incidentally YB7720 is on the Association Register, and owned by Mary Walker, being driven by her in her nineties at our recent Car of the Year show and driving tests.

Robert Leigh



YB 7220, not YB 7720, is the car on the Register. As they're both '26 AD tourers I wonder if this is a typo?

Location: Herefordshire, with an E not a T

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