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Sealant + Head gasket

Morning all,
Quick question before I replace the head gasket on my rebuilt engine...
It's an old low compression head, should I cover the gasket in blue hylamar before putting it back together, or do it dry? I'm sure I did the last one dry, but this one has a coating...
Thanks,
Ru

Location: Sussex

Re: Sealant + Head gasket

The very thinest smeer of grease works well, although i have been told copper slip is better. Dont use sealant!

Re: Sealant + Head gasket

If both the block and head surfaces are flat and in good condition, just a smear of grease works fine. Hylomar is good, especially the spray stuff if you can get it. However, I'd use loctite 5920 (think that's right). Anyway it's the copper coloured stuff. Halfords sell it. Again though, just a smear, remember if it squishes out of the side of the block when you tighten it, it's doing that into the cylinders as well. You don't want that.

Re: Sealant + Head gasket

I also use the copper coloured Loctite available from Halfords and can heartily endorse it. I have previously used a light smear of grease or copper slip but the Loctite stuff is the best!

Re: Sealant + Head gasket

As far as Halfords are concerned, I believe that their stocking of Loctite 5920 has been replaced by Loctite 5990 which appears to have an identical spec. ??

Ian Mc.

Location: Shropshire

Re: Sealant + Head gasket

Hi
Make sure it is the Loctite 5920 you get and not another similar Loctite product with a similar but different number - there's one that sticks hard - not what you want when you come to remove the head! (Halfords sent me the wrong one when I ordered the 5920 on-line and I had to get them to exchange it!)
Colin

Re: Sealant + Head gasket

Thanks guys,
Good ecuse to go to halfords!
Ru

Location: Sussex

Re: Sealant + Head gasket

I have been converted to the use of Wellseal, at least one of the cherished repairers uses it and I have done so since observing its use then. I have copied the sales blurb for info, I have no connection other than as a satisfied customer.

Wellseal was developed by Rolls Royce Ltd and manufactured under license, this compound is the complete answer to sealing problems on machined faces.

Stag Wellseal jointing compound is non-flammable, has easy partability and is non-hardening it is formulated to give the best possible sealing performance under a wide variety of conditions.

It can be used to seal threaded connections as well as flat- faced joints and can be used with or without a gasket, depending upon the design of the assembly.

Stag Wellseal Jointing Compound is highly resistant to the majority of commonly used field, lubricants and coolants and is non-corrosive and free from abrasive fillers.

Location: Cotswolds

Re: Sealant + Head gasket

Oxford Jack
I have been converted to the use of Wellseal, at least one of the cherished repairers uses it and I have done so since observing its use then. I have copied the sales blurb for info, I have no connection other than as a satisfied customer.

Wellseal was developed by Rolls Royce Ltd and manufactured under license, this compound is the complete answer to sealing problems on machined faces.

Stag Wellseal jointing compound is non-flammable, has easy partability and is non-hardening it is formulated to give the best possible sealing performance under a wide variety of conditions.

It can be used to seal threaded connections as well as flat- faced joints and can be used with or without a gasket, depending upon the design of the assembly.

Stag Wellseal Jointing Compound is highly resistant to the majority of commonly used field, lubricants and coolants and is non-corrosive and free from abrasive fillers.
Yes I agree Wellseal is a very good sealer Iv'e been using it for about 40 years on cylinder heads petrol and diesel, best to wear a mask when using it though as the fumes when curing can be very harmfull to your lungs, and I believe it tells you that in the instructions

Location: sunnyish suffolk coast

Re: Sealant + Head gasket

I have used grease only once. Head and block were machined and stuck together like slip gauges when smeared with oil. Once all bolted up and when filled with coolant it leaked like a sieve in to cylinders and valve chambers! Never again. Hats off to those who can do it but wellseal for me every time now

Location: Farnham

Re: Sealant + Head gasket

I've always used a smear of grease, never a sealant, never a problem.
You pays yer money and takes yer choice.

Location: Melrose, Scottish Borders

Re: Sealant + Head gasket

I used to use a smear of Blue Hylomar or Grease , but like others on here I now always use Wellseal (Also known as STAG) and have done for 10 years now, with no issues apart from it sticks to everything WD40 does seem to be the only thing that removes it for clean up.

Location: NSW Australia

Re: Sealant + Head gasket

The problem with sealants is the gasket may not be reusable. Books such as Nicholson assumed reuse. Recommendations for cyl heads have varied over the years but in the 1960s when car heads were still commonly removed a very thin smear of grease was the fashion, and I complied. My Seven benefitted from decokes and often (using the valves commonly supplied at the time) needed a valve grind after 5,000 miles. I always reused gaskets. Similarly I ran Javelin for over 20 years and for a myriad reasons this required innumerable head removals. I just used a trace of plain grease. No gasket failures and no obvious leaks.And no drama removing the heads.
Gaskets with metal on only one face generally cannot be reused so a sealant more appropriate.
I have dismantled cars where graphite grease has been applied so thick it pressed hollows in the gasket!

Bob Culver

Location: Auckland, NZ