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Re: Bar/club activity in Cardiff

popworld sounds the kinda place where 14yr olds would go with fake ID's. Several Lambrini bottles in between splatters of sic hidden in a darkened lane close to the building

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Bit like the previous establishment then!

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AMoore
It's quite an appropriate name I think. It's basically a 90's party bar, dragging Reflex up from the 80s.
vut we already have a 90s bar (which plays the naffest 90s music possible)

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I hear the old Beatbox bars owners are looking to set up somewhere new in Cardiff. I saw them out on the prowl this Saturday. Wonder how well that will go down.

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There is an application for a TexMex type eaterie/bar for the unit in Church St next to the Harvester (previously occupied by the works). Details are -


The applicant and intended occupier is Applejacks Bars Ltd, who will
operate a ‘Hybrid bar and restaurant’ which will be a new operation in Cardiff.
The premises will offer gourmet street food dining experience based on an
American / Mexican concept where all food and drinks can be ordered with
table service.

1.9 The menu will mainly consist of Gourmet Burgers and Hot Dogs with Tacos,
Taquitos and Burritos on offer, as well as salads and daily specials such as BBQ
ribs & Chicken wings. The theme of the food will be complemented by the
drinks list where the emphasis will be on quality rather than quantity. Again
the emphasis will be on premium range (largely) American drinks with
cocktails, specialist beers, unusual continental bottled beers, reputable brand
ciders & lagers, non-alcoholic & gluten free lager plus a wide range of soft
drinks, minerals & non-alcoholic beers & cocktails.

1.10 The outlet will also include a function room available for hire for
community events, exhibitions and musical gigs. Externally the façade will be
cleaned & new signage will be added. Any new changes to the façade and the
proposed signage will be subject of separate applications in due course. A
fuller Operational Schedule for the proposed outlet is included at Appendix B.

1.11The application seeks an amendment to the opening hours for the outlet.
The hours sought are as follows:-

 10.00 – 03.00am daily with performance of recorded music and supply of
liquor, with an extension to 04.00am on New Year’s Eve & Bank Holidays.
The Licence Application seeks the hours of 12.00 – 3.00am for the daily
performance of music.

Re: Bar/club activity in Cardiff

Karl
There is an application for a TexMex type eaterie/bar for the unit in Church St next to the Harvester (previously occupied by the works). Details are -


The applicant and intended occupier is Applejacks Bars Ltd, who will
operate a ‘Hybrid bar and restaurant’ which will be a new operation in Cardiff.
The premises will offer gourmet street food dining experience based on an
American / Mexican concept where all food and drinks can be ordered with
table service.

1.9 The menu will mainly consist of Gourmet Burgers and Hot Dogs with Tacos,
Taquitos and Burritos on offer, as well as salads and daily specials such as BBQ
ribs & Chicken wings. The theme of the food will be complemented by the
drinks list where the emphasis will be on quality rather than quantity. Again
the emphasis will be on premium range (largely) American drinks with
cocktails, specialist beers, unusual continental bottled beers, reputable brand
ciders & lagers, non-alcoholic & gluten free lager plus a wide range of soft
drinks, minerals & non-alcoholic beers & cocktails.

1.10 The outlet will also include a function room available for hire for
community events, exhibitions and musical gigs. Externally the façade will be
cleaned & new signage will be added. Any new changes to the façade and the
proposed signage will be subject of separate applications in due course. A
fuller Operational Schedule for the proposed outlet is included at Appendix B.

1.11The application seeks an amendment to the opening hours for the outlet.
The hours sought are as follows:-

 10.00 – 03.00am daily with performance of recorded music and supply of
liquor, with an extension to 04.00am on New Year’s Eve & Bank Holidays.
The Licence Application seeks the hours of 12.00 – 3.00am for the daily
performance of music.


This is my kind of food place. I loved these restaurants while in Vegas. Better than eating poncy food.

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Be interesting to see what opening hours they get allowed.

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Me
Be interesting to see what opening hours they get allowed.


I've heard on the grapevine that the people behind it are the same ones that were running Buffalo when it went bust, leaving lots of unpaid bills. So it will be interesting to see if they are deemed to be fit enough to have a licence at all.

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Have added pages for Popworld and Flute and Tankard to Citypedia:
Popworld
Flute and Tankard
Please drop by and contribute if you know anything about them.

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Wahaca have put in a planning app to open in 51/53 The Hayes. A decent Mexican chain that always used to have big queues in London.

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Already been reported in the 'St Davids Shopping Centre 2013' thread below.

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Karl
There is an application for a TexMex type eaterie/bar for the unit in Church St next to the Harvester (previously occupied by the works). Details are -


The applicant and intended occupier is Applejacks Bars Ltd, who will
operate a ‘Hybrid bar and restaurant’ which will be a new operation in Cardiff.
The premises will offer gourmet street food dining experience based on an
American / Mexican concept where all food and drinks can be ordered with
table service.

1.9 The menu will mainly consist of Gourmet Burgers and Hot Dogs with Tacos,
Taquitos and Burritos on offer, as well as salads and daily specials such as BBQ
ribs & Chicken wings. The theme of the food will be complemented by the
drinks list where the emphasis will be on quality rather than quantity. Again
the emphasis will be on premium range (largely) American drinks with
cocktails, specialist beers, unusual continental bottled beers, reputable brand
ciders & lagers, non-alcoholic & gluten free lager plus a wide range of soft
drinks, minerals & non-alcoholic beers & cocktails.

1.10 The outlet will also include a function room available for hire for
community events, exhibitions and musical gigs. Externally the façade will be
cleaned & new signage will be added. Any new changes to the façade and the
proposed signage will be subject of separate applications in due course. A
fuller Operational Schedule for the proposed outlet is included at Appendix B.

1.11The application seeks an amendment to the opening hours for the outlet.
The hours sought are as follows:-

 10.00 – 03.00am daily with performance of recorded music and supply of
liquor, with an extension to 04.00am on New Year’s Eve & Bank Holidays.
The Licence Application seeks the hours of 12.00 – 3.00am for the daily
performance of music.


Overpriced, plastic food from a plastic bar that sells overpriced plastic drinks. I expect the entire establishment to come packed-flat, and be assembled in one afternoon.

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I read that the James Sommerin restaurant in the new building being constructed on Penarth Esplanade is to open in April. Apparently it has 400 bookings already. I know it's not quite Cardiff but I wonder if this restaurant will deliver that elusive Michelin star?

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Karl
I read that the James Sommerin restaurant in the new building being constructed on Penarth Esplanade is to open in April. Apparently it has 400 bookings already. I know it's not quite Cardiff but I wonder if this restaurant will deliver that elusive Michelin star?


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/michelin-starred-welsh-chef-james-sommerin-6648800

Wasn't Marco Pierre White going to open a restaurant at Cardiff at one point? I ate at his Birmingham grill which was on the top floor of an Indigo Hotel and it was lush in fairness. We are lacking in high-end quality eateries, hopefully gaining a Michelin Star in Penarth will be a start!

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Karl
I read that the James Sommerin restaurant in the new building being constructed on Penarth Esplanade is to open in April. Apparently it has 400 bookings already. I know it's not quite Cardiff but I wonder if this restaurant will deliver that elusive Michelin star?


I think James already has a Michelin star.


Edit: just had confirmed its the establishment that keeps the star and not the chef. It was the crown at whitebrook that has the Michelin star. Restaurant James Sommerin will hopefully be the first restaurant in Cardiff and the vale with a star

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Incidentally,

I had long been led to believe that Cardiff's lack of a michelen star restaurant was a big embarrassment.

While it is obviously not great to lack one, we are by no means alone and there are far larger cities that lack one.

Glasgow, Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, Belfast, Cardiff and Liverpool are the major cities that lack any Michelin starred restaurants.

Birmingham on the other hand has 4!

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I genuinely think the concept of a Michelin star is outdated and bears no impact on anything those days.

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Yes, that's true. Even in France it's seen as a bit stuffy.

Granted, a Michelin star would be a real coup for the city but it's not something that the city should try and define itself with. Essentially what the city needs to improve the restaurant/dining out scene is add more diversity, less chains, and more independent establishments (that are of value, and I'm not talking about money here).

In terms of cafés the city doesn't too badly at all imo, I was up in Birmingham recently and I was surprised at how hard it was to find a coffee place or a café that wasn't a starbucks or a Costa.

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Planning application today to turn what was Club X (Now 'Base' I think) into appartments.

I don't support that one bit.

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Charles Street. Why is there no vision?!

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Redragon
Charles Street. Why is there no vision?!


Charles Street seemed to be developing a bit of a 'gay village' vibe at one time but as you say there's been a total lack of vision. One ultra-cruddy piece of public art has been installed and, er, that's it. Maybe it will liven up with increased pedestrian flows once Admiral has relocated.

Re: Bar/club activity in Cardiff

Ash
Redragon
Charles Street. Why is there no vision?!


Charles Street seemed to be developing a bit of a 'gay village' vibe at one time but as you say there's been a total lack of vision. One ultra-cruddy piece of public art has been installed and, er, that's it. Maybe it will liven up with increased pedestrian flows once Admiral has relocated.


The concept of a gay village is quite outdated now as gay people now feel just as comfortable socialising with their straight friends in any bar. When you think about it, it's quite isolating to bundle all gay bars/clubs onto one side street.

Besides, Charles Street has no future as a night spot due to the close proximity of the Hayes Apartments. Residents have made many complaints about the noise.

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Something called the Gravity Station opening up in the Barrack Lane development -

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/beer-specialist-gravity-station-opens-6715302

This seems to be a niche off licence with the ability to 'try before you buy'. I like the sound of it.

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Karl
Something called the Gravity Station opening up in the Barrack Lane development -

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/beer-specialist-gravity-station-opens-6715302

This seems to be a niche off licence with the ability to 'try before you buy'. I like the sound of it.


free beer - woohoo!

Re: Bar/club activity in Cardiff

Amoore
Ash
Redragon
Charles Street. Why is there no vision?!


Charles Street seemed to be developing a bit of a 'gay village' vibe at one time but as you say there's been a total lack of vision. One ultra-cruddy piece of public art has been installed and, er, that's it. Maybe it will liven up with increased pedestrian flows once Admiral has relocated.


The concept of a gay village is quite outdated now as gay people now feel just as comfortable socialising with their straight friends in any bar. When you think about it, it's quite isolating to bundle all gay bars/clubs onto one side street.

Besides, Charles Street has no future as a night spot due to the close proximity of the Hayes Apartments. Residents have made many complaints about the noise.


That's a shame, seems a bit of a step back in a way. I suppose a switch to other types of businesses such as cafes and restaurants does seems better suited for the area now though,

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The Goscombe Pub in Canton has closed. It appears that Smith & Jones which operated it has gone into administration.
On a happier note, I was in Urban Tap House early on Saturday evening. It was packed out. Good to see.

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HBob
The Goscombe Pub in Canton has closed. It appears that Smith & Jones which operated it has gone into administration.


It was pretty horrible. Someone else will probably pick it up.

Further up Cowbridge Rd East "The Lazy Duck" bar seems to be continualy rammed. It's got incredibly good value high-end food. The sister-restaurant "Duck Egg Bleu" next door seems to be doing okay-ish. It's an odd location for a very up-market resteraunt although that part of Canton is gentryfying pretty quickly.

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The White Hart on James Street is shut.

I can't say I'm surprised. It's a cracking pub, but didn't move with the times and was dead in the week.

It's up for sale. Would be a tragedy if it's not taken on as a pub again.

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Ash
HBob
The Goscombe Pub in Canton has closed. It appears that Smith & Jones which operated it has gone into administration.


It was pretty horrible. Someone else will probably pick it up.

Further up Cowbridge Rd East "The Lazy Duck" bar seems to be continualy rammed. It's got incredibly good value high-end food. The sister-restaurant "Duck Egg Bleu" next door seems to be doing okay-ish. It's an odd location for a very up-market resteraunt although that part of Canton is gentryfying pretty quickly.


Went to the Duck Egg Bleu with the better half on Valentines day, nice joint and food was lovely (although was served the wrong starter!). Only opened mid December I think so are just ironing out the teething problems but nice atmosphere and would go back again, although will be for a special event as it is pretty pricey!

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I'm not sure if this is still happening, but came across this design for a revamped Minskys Showbar.

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That would be great to be fair. Barrack Lane is pretty decent, and Admiral should change the dynamic of the whole area.

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The leaseholder of A.M nightclub on St Mary Street has taken back the venue from its operator due to concerns of irresponsibility that has jeopardised its licence.

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Walked passed the new Gravity Station bottleshop/bar on way home tonight. I was going to pop in to buy a couple of beers, but it was packed. Had quite a buzz about it. The real ale scene is really thriving in Cardiff. I hope it's sustainable.

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Cecil
Walked passed the new Gravity Station bottleshop/bar on way home tonight. I was going to pop in to buy a couple of beers, but it was packed. Had quite a buzz about it. The real ale scene is really thriving in Cardiff. I hope it's sustainable.


I heard the other day that the people who have taken over Fire Island are trying to get the empty unit under the old British Gas building on Churchill Way as another real ale bar. Doubtful they'll get it, Saturation Area n all...

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Amoore
The leaseholder of A.M nightclub on St Mary Street has taken back the venue from its operator due to concerns of irresponsibility that has jeopardised its licence.

Thanks for sharing that, I hadn't been able to figure out if it was closed down. I had thought it looked a bit dodgy so this makes sense.


Citypedia Cardiff

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Bacchus (previously Cardiff Arts Institute and Incognito) shut at the end of May and the building is up for sale. Brains must have given up on the venue.

Do we reckon someone else will take it on as a bar? Or restaurant, offices, student accommodation?

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As a gay man who lived in Cardiff for 8 years, I must say that the gay scene there died in 2007 when Pulse (or ‘Repulse’ as I call it) opened which then led on to the opening of Wow Bar and 4Play which later became Kings to capitalise on the closure of Kings Cross which in now the Corner House restaurant.
Before that, Charles Street was almost always busy and the clubs were full. Exit and X really were the places to be. The problem with the Cardiff gay scene is that it had too many venues. At one point, there were 11 gay or gay-friendly venues: King’s Cross, Golden Cross, Pulse, Wow Bar, 4Play, Fusion, Eagle, Icon, X, Exit, X:it and Minsky’s. And all of this for a city with a population of 330,000. It was never going to be sustainable.

The idea of a gay village is rather outdated for many reasons. We don’t really need to be ghettoised any more, and a night out in Manchester’s gay village will just show you that it’s more of a place for hen parties and straight women to have a hassle-free night out rather than a place for gay men and lesbians to meet. This is mainly due to the use of mobile app dating services like Scruff and Grindr which have totally destroyed gay nightlife as well as greater tolerance, acceptance and equality generally and the economic downturn. People don’t go out any more. Gays do their dating and meeting over apps. Also, why on earth would somebody want to put up with Wow Bar or Pulse when they can have a much nicer night out in a restaurant or a quiet straight bar?
I have many fond memories of Charles Street, but the kind of gay scene it offered is from an age gone by.

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Me
Bacchus (previously Cardiff Arts Institute and Incognito) shut at the end of May and the building is up for sale. Brains must have given up on the venue.

Do we reckon someone else will take it on as a bar? Or restaurant, offices, student accommodation?


The Pen and Wig is always packed so I don't think it's the location. In fact I'm surprised that there have not been more pubs/restaurants opened in this location particularly St Andrews Crescent and Windsor Place which are no longer prime office. That part of town is quite pleasant for a little pub crawl - Buffalo, Pen and Wig, Bar 33, Promised Land (when it was open) and even the Spoons has a certain something - and forms a nice little link to Cathays.

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Brewdog on Westgate Street, the old Double Super Happy unit, seems to be a hive of activity at the mo and hopefully should be ready by the end of the month. Do we know what's going in the old Habitat unit yet?

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Mathew
Gays do their dating and meeting over apps. Also, why on earth would somebody want to put up with Wow Bar or Pulse when they can have a much nicer night out in a restaurant or a quiet straight bar?


Because believe it or not there are still a whole load of gays that want to dance to the latest pop music and go out clubbing in a predominantly gay environment.

However, your point does stand with regards to some of the older venues that have closed. There is a lot less demand for gay venues but still enough demand that a few can remain fairly busy and profitable.

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Commuter87
Brewdog on Westgate Street, the old Double Super Happy unit, seems to be a hive of activity at the mo and hopefully should be ready by the end of the month. Do we know what's going in the old Habitat unit yet?


It's going to be a Miller & Carter, a M&B steak restaurant, there's one in the bay at the bottom of Atlantic Wharf. It's ok but another high street chain for town, like we don't have enough!

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Simon_SW17
Commuter87
Brewdog on Westgate Street, the old Double Super Happy unit, seems to be a hive of activity at the mo and hopefully should be ready by the end of the month. Do we know what's going in the old Habitat unit yet?


It's going to be a Miller & Carter, a M&B steak restaurant, there's one in the bay at the bottom of Atlantic Wharf. It's ok but another high street chain for town, like we don't have enough!



Wahaca is to be nearby too. It will be their first location outside London.

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A bierkeller has applied for a licence in what used to be bar riza, millennium plaza

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elgdav
A bierkeller has applied for a licence in what used to be bar riza, millennium plaza


Interesting, Risa failed in this unit because it's a little too far off the "main strip" in my opinion. But with the BBC due to relocate and one Capital Square starting soon maybe we'll start to see a bit more life down this end of town? Hopefully the developers of those building will have the foresight to include a few units at ground floor level

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I'd have preferred to see the whole of Millennium Plaza or whatever its called demolished. It's a hateful building. It's odd to think that it's off the beaten track when you consider O'Neills and Prince of Wales are about 200 yards away but such is the mindset of the local populace that you are probably right.

In other news I noticed a sign saying that something like the 'Ultimate Carvery' was opening in the old La Fosse unit underneath Habitat. No prizes for guessing what they will specialize in.

Also does anyone know what's happening in the unit previously occupied by Promised Land in Windsor Place? I'm sure a new bar was due to open 'imminently'.

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Cote coming to Mill Lane..

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murfilicious
elgdav
A bierkeller has applied for a licence in what used to be bar riza, millennium plaza


Interesting, Risa failed in this unit because it's a little too far off the "main strip" in my opinion. But with the BBC due to relocate and one Capital Square starting soon maybe we'll start to see a bit more life down this end of town? Hopefully the developers of those building will have the foresight to include a few units at ground floor level


Knowing the council they would enlarge the "saturation zone" to stymie any chance of that!

Somewhat ironic that this area used to be called Temperance Town and no licenced premises were allowed by whoever owned the area.

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I know it's fashionable to blame the council for every single fault or issue, this is a universal phenomenon in every town and city. However, is not the saturation zone actually a police policy, whereby they automatically issue an objection to any licence application in certain locations?

At least this administration has not blindly conceded to this objection, so credit for that, surely.

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Simon__200
I know it's fashionable to blame the council for every single fault or issue, this is a universal phenomenon in every town and city. However, is not the saturation zone actually a police policy, whereby they automatically issue an objection to any licence application in certain locations?

At least this administration has not blindly conceded to this objection, so credit for that, surely.



I was being sarcastic but to answer your question Saturation Policy is a council policy and which South Wales Police support. IIRC there were a few cases reported where the police automatically objected to a new licence due to the council's saturation policy regardless of the merits of the application.

As you say, hopefully, the current council will take a better approach and allow this area of the city to develop.

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I did try to post a link to the council document I found but I am having trouble with the filter. It's a Economy & Culture scrutiny committee report from 2011 if you want to search for it.

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