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Re: City Centre Retail

Bad news for Wizard. USC's outlet on Queen St is now shut.

I imagine the Inner Circle's 'top boy' will be fuming at the reduction in the availability of Henri Lloyd gear. If I was in the USC firm I'd have it away on my toes, the mugs. I just hope no claret is spilt.

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USC shut?

Whaaaaaat the ....... where's me brass knucks

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Timberland have shut down in St Davids centre. No advance warning about that one. You will have to go to Cribbs Causeway now if you want to buy expensive shoes that will make you look like a builder.

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...or USC ;)

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I want an Uniqlo to open!

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Sad to see that the newly opened two seasons shop (the old pier unit) in the queens arcade appears to be up for let, as does the austin reed store in capitol, both these 'shopping centre's' appear to be emptying pretty fast. Most worrying is that most of queens arcade seems to be up for let http://www.calanretail.co.uk/property.php?search=cardiff&x=18&y=13

and as for the capitol shopping centre, who knows, I don't think the centre management has a long term plan!

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Has Two Seasons closed then?

You can't trust shop property websites, some of them are months out of date.

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Looked open today, from a short distance.

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It looked open to me when I went past yesterday.

Freespirit in St Johns Street are closing down. I understand that Blacks are moving into that unit which would leave their current premises on the corner of Castle St/Womamby St empty.

Perhaps a restaurant/bar could open there? I think these premises would suit an outfit like the Toucan or Buffalo. They are big enough and there is a sizeable area upstairs, plus in Womamby Street which appears to be Cardiff's epicentre for 'alternative' venues (despite Spoons presence).

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I've got high hopes for Womanby Street. Has anyone seen the nice buildings between Dempseys and Clwb? They are crying out to be bars/clubs. Hopefully won't be too long.

I was initially opposed to the repaving of Womanby Street, but actually it looks pretty good and I think it will help the street.

I'm also increasingly impressed with the work on High Street. The banner post/lamp-post things are a bit high and a bit odd, but it's starting to feel like a nice area. Wandering around the other day it was inconceivable that cars used to clog up that street and we trudged along on skanky pavements.

The council still dropped a bollock with refusing to grant a licence for Floyds. They need to step back sometimes, create the infrastructure and then let the market do it's work.

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Those buildings are nice. I think they are basically shells which would entail a significant sum of money to bring back into retail/A3/office usage. In the present climate that may prove to be a tricky proposition.

I have noticed that all of the units that used to be the Horse and Groom are now let - Cougar, Beach and Y Fuwch Goch. That must be a good omen. Still no sign of the Staff Club being brought back into use. Anyone know whats happening? There was also an application to turn the derelict building next to Revolution into a hostel which now appears to have been binned (thankfully).



I like the paving as well.

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According to the Guardian rates relief for empty commercial properties with a rateable value of over £2,600 will be scrapped from April 2011 onwards.

This could lead to landlords reducing rents to avoid payment of rates, thus increasing letting activity in the retail sector particularly in th city centre where the level of rents never cease to amaze me.

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Looks like the Waitrose store on Queen Street will be open by April.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonline/cardiff-news/2011/02/17/waitrose-to-open-new-cardiff-store-91466-28185110/

With the new Travelodge opening and now this, it seems there is a little bit of fightback happening in the street post-SD2.

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James
I've got high hopes for Womanby Street. Has anyone seen the nice buildings between Dempseys and Clwb? They are crying out to be bars/clubs. Hopefully won't be too long.


I reckon those two oldy worldy buildings would look good as youth hostels....where did I get that idea from

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Kyle
Looks like the Waitrose store on Queen Street will be open by April.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonline/cardiff-news/2011/02/17/waitrose-to-open-new-cardiff-store-91466-28185110/

With the new Travelodge opening and now this, it seems there is a little bit of fightback happening in the street post-SD2.


reads as if two new stores are coming, one on Queen street and one where?

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Where do you get two stores from?

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Waitrose hoardings are up on the old USC unit, not long now!

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"Little Waitrose" has opened on Queen Street.

Not as little as I thought. Roughly the same size as M&S Food at the station. Perhaps slightly bigger.

Only complaint. Their self-service is card only, bit unusual these days. So when it's busy like it is today you have to stand and queue even if you only have 2 things.

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CF24
"Little Waitrose" has opened on Queen Street.

Not as little as I thought. Roughly the same size as M&S Food at the station. Perhaps slightly bigger.

Only complaint. Their self-service is card only, bit unusual these days. So when it's busy like it is today you have to stand and queue even if you only have 2 things.


Didn't know that.

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Frank
CF24
"Little Waitrose" has opened on Queen Street.

Not as little as I thought. Roughly the same size as M&S Food at the station. Perhaps slightly bigger.

Only complaint. Their self-service is card only, bit unusual these days. So when it's busy like it is today you have to stand and queue even if you only have 2 things.


Didn't know that.


You do now. As do I!

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I went into the Capitol centre the other day for the first time in ages. It looked to me that the place is absolutely dying on its arse. Lots of empty units, a few units filled with temporary 'everything £10 or less' type shops, very few people inside even though it was raining. It looks to me as though its being kept afloat by H & M, Sports Direct and Boots.

Previously it was well placed due to its proximity to Queen St station but I would say its just as easy to turn left outside the station and walk to SD2 now. That end of Queen st doesn't really have any big draws in terms of shopping either.

Maybe there are too many malls for a city the size of Cardiff. The question is if Capitol is struggling as a retail destination what is the alternative?

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Would it make any sense to turn the centre into one big department store?

I'm thinking a higher-end draw; Selfridges, Harvey Nichols, Fenwick......

It might be the wrong place for something like that though, and perhaps Cardiff's catchment area isn't wealthy enough (yet) to sustain something like that.

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There was an application for a bowling alley where the cinema used to be (which has been gone for how many years) but nothing seems to have come of it.

Maybe an entertainment complex - bowling alley, restaurants, cafes, bars - not unlike the Red Dragon centre?

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Pretty Green, selling clothes designed by (I kid you not) Liam Gallagher, are opening in the big vacant unit in the Morgan Arcade.

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Thats actually some pretty good news and a fairly good scoop for the Morgan Arcade and Cardiff more generally. So far they have stores on Carnaby Street, in Covent Garden and in Manchester. New stores are to open in Cardiff, Leeds, Nottingham and Birmingham.

http://www.prettygreen.com/careers/

I hope it does well. I want some vibrancy back in the arcades. Whilst the Hayes is busier and there may have been some boost to the arcades they really don't seem to have benefited that much from the St Davids effect. A large number of the shoppers from the Valleys really just stick to their comfort zone of St Davids and Queen Street. I'm amazed when I hear them say things like "Cardiff is so big, its so easy to get lost".

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Interesting use of the old Index unit in Capitol

University of Glamorgan using the shop as an exhibition space
http://cci.glam.ac.uk/big-shop/

http://cci.glam.ac.uk/big-shop/

Forget how large the space is, suprised its been vacant that long. That and parts of the old Odeon theres so much wasted space in that building.

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I thought that was where All Star Lanes were going, wonder what's happened to them?

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RandomComment
A large number of the shoppers from the Valleys really just stick to their comfort zone of St Davids and Queen Street. I'm amazed when I hear them say things like "Cardiff is so big, its so easy to get lost".


Pretty big generalization there. Of course a lot of people (Cardiffians included) just stick to Queen Street and St. Davids, that's where most of the affordable big name brands are. Shoppers from the Valleys and students from over the bridge stop Cardiff from dying on its arse.

If the new development at Llantrisant is any good it could hit Cardiff hard.

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Simon_N16
I thought that was where All Star Lanes were going, wonder what's happened to them?


I see the future of Capitol going in that direction. Bowling, maybe a gym, a few more places to eat, a few bars as well as some shopping and services like hairdressers etc. The Omni centre in Edinburgh is something similar (not too unlike the RDC in the Bay). If the Millenium Plaza is converted to a convention centre then there will be a gap in the market for this type of venue.

I really can't see much of a retail future for it.

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Piece in the Echo about the Capitol Centre -

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonline/cardiff-news/2011/07/26/concerns-for-future-of-capitol-shopping-centre-as-retailers-flock-to-st-david-s-91466-29117579/

Out of 39 units there are 15 empty. Of the 24 filled I'd say there are at least 2 or 3 that are temporary. There are also at least 10 and possibly more units occupied by retailers who have a presence elsewhere in the city. With the current retail doom and gloom can Fat Face - just as an example - justify 2 stores in Cardiff? Upstairs 10 out of 13 units are empty.

Apparently negotiations are underway with potential new tenants.

Just out of interest how long ago did the cinema and Index close? Those units must account for a huge amount of space but have been empty for the best part of a decade, maybe more. As the online commentator states what the hell have the management been up to knowing full well that SD2 has been in the planning for the last 10 years at least?

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I think the hotel convention centre should be built here.

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The comment after the article raises a very good point - if the Capitol had a mall entrance opposite Queen St station it would not be struggling as it is (at least on the ground floor).

If the units were reconfigured to be 2 floors that may help with the empty first floor problem too.

It's not as if the old Odeon site is being used.

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Vans and the North Face (both owned by the same holding company) are opening stand-alone stores in Cardiff it seems, according to job ads on RetailChoice. Not sure where - St Davids seems reasonably likely, but could be anywhere.

Apparently two MSUs are exchanged in St Davids (according to CSCs half-yearly statement) and its now 90% let by income. One looks to be River Island (bleugh!) and the other...? Has Hamleys finally exchanged? Or is the unit being taken by Gilly Hicks officially an MSU? Why on earth do you need such a massive shop for underwear and swimwear though!?!?

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Gilly Hicks sell far more than just underwear and swimwear, so that will be why they need a unit around the same size as Hollister. They sell stuff like hoodies, jogging bottoms, perfumes, accessories, dresses and sleepwear. The only things they don't seem to sell that A&F and Hollister sell is jeans. From what I can tell, half the products are the same as the other A&F brands with just a different logo and maybe a slight difference in material quality.

Besides, if it's anything like the A&F and Hollister stores there'll be plenty of space swallowed up by props and space for their 'pretty' staff to hang around.

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They're just for women right? With a name like Gilly Hicks...

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I had a look at their website and they seem to sell most of the same stuff as Hollister and A&F, but just for women.

What really makes me laugh is that their signage has Sydney underneath the Gilly Hicks even though it's an American brand. All a little odd, but A&F do like to make up these fake identities for their stores.

Cardiff is doing well to be the second location in the UK after Westfield to get a store.

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The Gilly Hicks unit is a MSU as is River Island so I guess that's the two mentioned. Forever 21 would be another two and Hamleys another one....these seem to be taking forever and an eternity in that order.

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and we don't even have a Gilly Hicks in Sydney!

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Another victory for cardiff over our international rivals!

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Queen Street news -

A noodle bar called Chopstix looks ready to open on Queen Street (in the building where Envy was).

Just a few doors up Madhouse are opening up in the Venetian building that used to house GAP on 16th Sept. Not sure but aren't they some sort of bargain bucket type of retailer?

A shop called Sugacane selling retro sweets has opened in one of the units under the Parc Hotel.

Barclays bank in Queen St (lovely art deco style building on the corner of Windsor Place) is now empty. I hope that it will be occupied soon.

The old Monsoon unit next to Boots looks like its having a substantial refurb - anyone know whats going here?

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Chopstix is vile, there are a few on Oxford Street. It's a dodgy Oriental buffet thing. Quite good when you're wrecked though.

Madhouse is in the lower level of Queen's Arcade and sells reduced price 'labels' and shed loads of sports casual wear. Seems a shame for that lovely building. Hopefully it's temporary.

Dunno about the ex-Monsoon. Hopefully not another Pound store. I work in Hammersmith and Poundland have opened a 2nd branch within 2 mins walk of the first. Our high streets are going to shit!

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This is the website for Madhouse saying they are opening in Cardiff

http://www.madhouse.co.uk/

Looks trashy trendy with converse CK et

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Pre SD2 Madhouse were in Queens Arcade where the post office went.

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American Express are moving from Queen St (next to Pizza Hut) to High Street Arcade. Queen St unit to be a restaurant.

In other news Brains have bought local coffee house chain Coffee No 1. They currently have 3 branches in Cardiff with others in Chepstow, Penarth, Newport, Abergavenny and about another 6 or 7 in Bristol and the west country. The indications are that Brains are looking to open up another 5 or 6 per annum over the next few years. That could mean quite a few branches in Cardiff - I can see them wanting a presence in Canton/Pontcanna, the Bay, city centre and perhaps somewhere like Llandaff, Whitchurch etc.

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A gym has applied to open upstairs in the capitol shopping centre and a pretzel company has applied for SD2 according to the echo.

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Another gym? What is it with gym operators in Cardiff at the moment? Is opening a gym a new tax dodge?

I waited eight long years for a non hotel based gym to open either in the City Centre or the Bay and one eventually opened in Park Place in 2006. Now within a couple of months we are due have a flurry gyms in Churchill Way (Fitness4less), Wood St (PureGym), Red Dragon Centre (Vitality no 2) and now also one in the Capital Centre.

Sounds very odd to me. I'm guessing that half of these proposed gyms simply won't open. Even more odd that they're all opening as we seem to be driving headlong into a downturn/recession/depression.

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Big fan of Coffee 1 - hopefully the takeover won't make any noticeable changes to the general customer. It would be good to see a few more branches in Cardiff - there is currently one by Central Station so one on Queen St is definitely feasible.

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Aren't all these gyms "budget gyms", though? Costing as little as £10 or £15 a month they seriously undercut the established players, so perhaps there could be a market for it.

Must say its a bit disappointing to have this in the Capitol. Upstairs risks becoming a complete ghost town without a footfall driver. And a gym is unlikely to drive footfall to other shops as noone wants to look at clothes, cds, gifts, etc, whilst hot, sweaty and tired.

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I'm not saying that there isn't a market for at least one - but four arriving hot on the heels of each other sounds like overkill - don't you think?

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Maybe, maybe not. Cardiff's always seemed ridiculously under-served by gyms to me. Even more so the rest of South Wales. In London (admittedly a different, more time-pressured and wealthier market), there are several gyms at practically every tube station.

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