It's quite large and will, I think, be quite alright when finished.
Two very interesting possible pieces of art for the square. I like both. Would be amazing if we could get both rather than just the one.
Admiral are commissioning a piece of public art to go in the walkway between St David's Eastside and the Cinema.
Option 1 - "Zeus is angry"
Option 2 - "the Bellway incomplete tower block has melted a bit in the sun"
I'm a fan of neither, but then I'm not a fan of any of the "public art" around the city, full story here:
I'm not really a fan of either, either! What's wrong with a simple water feature (a modern small fountain)? Or I'd prefer some kind of funky seating area. Rather than meaningless 'public art' that has no link to the surroundings.
Yet more oversized kids toys in the name of "art". When will decision makers in this city learn about taste? Big, ugly, meaningless crap. They are littering (literally) the city centre with this stuff. Do they seriously think these will look good in 5, 10, 15 years time?
Exactly as 'Random' said, some nicely designed seating, or grass it over so people can enjoy sitting on it in the sunshine.
Have to agree with all of the above. Do we HAVE to have public art whenever there is a big development? Sometimes it would be better to roll up the money being spent into s106 payments I think.
I'd rather the money spent on decent lighting of the Admiral building at night. This is 'art' for arts sake isn't it? Wouldn't the money be better spent on trees or imaginative planting?
I think you are right when you say the die has been cast. Out of the two I would prefer the second one. Hobsons choice though really.
Is there a way of responding to the 'consultation' without going to the pop-up shop. Would be nice to voice opinions, mine would echo the above.
Public Art DOES incorporate things like street furniture that can also serve a function and would include things like special lighting or a fountain.
To be honest - I would quite like public art if only they used someone with some talent. Surely there must be a good sculptor around.
I'm not sure if anybody saw this, but the old WRU ticket office in StDavids had a voting booth to decide which piece of work they preferred out of the two. I did ask them when(if) these were going to be built, and they told me that they were merely design concepts at the moment and if either of them get chosen then they will be built in the next 12months.
The bolt of lightning is called Bolt and will stand at 8m tall.
The other is called Flow, this will stand at 7m and it represents the river flow of people coming in and out of cardiff (They were uncertain if they should implement a water feature in this one)
The lightning bolt might be cool if it was lit up at night, but that's it.. As for the other, it reminds me of a melted double helix.
I like public art, but only if it fits into the surrounds, which these won't. The ones in the Bay celebrate our history as an industrial port, and they fit in. However, these don't really have any connection, and only seem to be strange for the sake of it.
I would have preferred some trees, or a lawn.
What absolute shit.
Just stick a seating area there that surrounds some plants or a small water feature. Somewhere for people to sit down and relax is all that's needed.
You can try too hard sometimes.
How about they send the money to the Capital Tower and light it up or something, after all it's going to be pretty dark when Admiral move out...
Re clad and 10 storeys added with rooftop restaurant and viewing platform! No!?.....we can dream :(
I don'k know, I really don't think it's THAT bad... it got sold recently and now they have some serious letting signs up... I think a reclad would ruin its 'character'. It'sof its time but not sure if it should be demolished?..
I doubt the tower itself would come down. I'm thinking more of other buildings on Greyfriars Rd.
They were mainly built in the sixties for the old Glamorgan County Council and are pretty cruddy. We've already seen one of them upgraded and turned to hotel use - the Park Plaza.
I just wonder whether with the centre of gravity for offices moving further south we might see a shift towards residential or HE development in that part of town.
The only ones that should go are the Tiger Tiger building and the NCP car park...
One Kingsway sadly replaced a nicer building but isn't too bad.
I'd like to see some of the offices in Park Place turned back into houses (non student!)
With the way things have gone capital tower will become apartments with penthouse at the top. i kinda like the idea as the tower might be small enough for a 3 bed penthouse taking a whole floor and being 80 meter's up the views will be simply stunning.
Word is that Admiral have already filled the new building so will need additional office space in Cardiff in any case.
Knock it down and replace with lawns to replace that which was lost!
and rebuild the priory?..
The ruins were the remains of a Manor House owned by the Herbert family actually. This replaced the Friary after the Dissolution of the Monasteries in the 1530s. Construction of the tower commenced in 1967. The Pearl, as I prefer to call it, is not a bad building, the only thing that lets it down is the balcony on the top which unfortunately seems to have escaped the recent refurbishment. I would like to see this glazed in, maybe it could become a public viewing platform.
I'm not a fan of renaming established buildings it never quite works....
Pan Am - MetLife, Sears - Willis, Nat West Tower - Tower 42, Piccadilly Plaza - City Tower.
sadly i think the oldest mosque in the uk didn't turn out to be in cardiff, I think an academic determined that seemed to have been a typo.
So Zeus and his Thunderbolt
someone in a bar in the heart of Soho London once told me that
the Welsh name for the god with the Thunderbolt is Iau...
which is where Dydd Iau got his name - Thursday in the English..
the English Thursday was name after - the Viking God Thor --
pass me the Penderyn and I'd tell you more
I think this thread has gone off topic!
Calm down, was on my phone and didn't realise that it changed it.
There is an article on Walesonline re the Admiral topping out -
An interesting snippet in there is that the developers, Stoford, are looking at new projects in Cardiff -
"He also confirmed that Stoford were looking at a number of potential opportunities in Cardiff, including the refurbishment of an exciting office scheme and the building of a new scheme."
I suspect that it should state existing rather than exciting, but that's the WM for you.
I wouldn't be surprised if the other opportunities Stoford are looking at also involve Admiral, they have already filled the 3000 capacity building and will need further office space in Cardiff by the end of 2014.
Why do they always have to use the word exciting...
Come and see our exciting new menu...
Come and look at our exciting new bus route...
Come and visit our exciting new development
Perhaps the people who write this really need to understand they are using exciting in the wrong context. Certainly it doesn’t excite me at all.
God that needs to go! Or at least the NCP car park next to it...
At least the bland pastiche job centre is now concealed from view...
Wasn't there news a while ago that there was plans for a green space on the site of Rapport/CIA, maybe a future phase of Admirals expansion? This could be the Admiral quarter?
If they needed more space they should have just gone higher on the current building going up, surely they would have forecast that ?
I think the Stoford talk is something totally different. You never know though ! I'd love another sizeable office to go up at that Rapport site :)
Actually, I wonder if the refurbishment they are talking about is Admiral's existing offices ? It would be good to hear of plans for that tower. I hope it stays as office space and gets a massive refurbishment.
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