This question has nothing to do with any CCFC rebrand arguments. Given that the sky is blue when the sun has risen and there isn't too much cloud cover, do posters feel that Cardiff enjoys more blue sky than other parts of Wales?

Data taken from our solar inverters here in North Cardiff reckon that between Feb 2012 and Mar 2013 we only had 30 bell curve days of completely uninterrupted sunshine! Sounds about right :(

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/pub/data/weather/uk/climate/averages/maps/uk/8110_1km/Sunshine_Average_1981-2010_7.gif

YES

The only problem is that is produced by the Met Office and you can't believe a word they say!

Are you on drugs?

Oh come on is someone taking the pee here?

Jeff Lynne asking about blue skies!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Blue_Sky

So, on a clear, cloudless day, when people look up at the sky and see that it is blue, what colour is the sky, in your opinion, if it isn't blue?

Jantra. The sky is blue. You are wrong

Here is a link to a NASA web page explaining why the sky is blue. It is a web page for CHILDREN, explaining why the sky is blue, because as all children know, the sky IS blue.

http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/blue-sky/

Jantra, the sky is blue. Rayleigh scattering theory explains why it is blue. The sky is blue at night too, a very deep indigo. The sky is blue.
You have been arguing over two messageboards and several days that the sky isn't blue, when it clearly is blue. Don't you realise that by arguing over this subject you are confirming that you are extremely argumentative and/or mentally ill? I am trying to help you here, you now need to help yourself.

A lot depends on what you define "the sky" as.

The atmosphere isn't blue, but the sky in most people's definition is what you can see above you when you are outside.
That, on occasion, is blue.

A slightly more interesting question is why isn't the sky violet?

Jantra. The sky is blue. You have said many times that the sky isn't blue. Do you still think the sky is not blue? Please answer this question in one, brief sentence.

Jantra. The sky is blue. You have said on many occasions that the sky is not blue. You are wrong because THE SKY IS BLUE. Nothing whatsoever that you say or write will ever change this fact.
You know that the sky is blue. Ask yourself why you are arguing that it isn't blue. Then, admit that you are wrong.

Jantra, the sky is sometimes red, but most often blue, isn't it? Your claim that the sky isn't blue is utterly nonsensical, the behaviour of a MADMAN!
Trolling involves posting a contentious or inflammatory statement or question onto the web. I didn't do that.
I posted that the sky is blue, which it IS and you chose to troll by posting that the sky is not blue! Which is very contentious, isn't it?

Don't you realise that there are a growing number of people in South Wales who think that you are mad?
Do yourself a favour and leave the internet alone until you deal with your demons. You aren't making enemies; you are turning yourself into a widely derided figure of fun. You are certainly not making any new friends.

I've already explained what you are seeing - you are seeing scattered sunlight. the sky - the background - is black as it has no light source. I don't like doing it, but this gives you a background of the phenomenon I've alluded to.

you may think the sky is blue, but it is not. in the same way you are not stationary or when you jump you push the earth away from you. you are merely observing a physical phenomenon.

Perhaps you can interject your response with a few more ad hominem attacks - they really add weight to your argument

Here is a quote from the second paragraph of YOUR link, Jantra:

"Rayleigh scattering of sunlight in the atmosphere causes diffuse sky radiation, which is the reason for the blue color of the sky and the yellow tone of the sun itself."

Can you see that it says "is the reason for the blue color of the sky"? It says that in your link because the sky is blue.

The sky is blue Jantra and the link you provided confirms what everyone knows. Read your link again and my link too, just so that you can be sure that the sky is blue. Which, of course it is.

There is a phrase, "would argue that the sky isn't blue". Type that into google, in quotes and see what search results appear, then read them. Hopefully you will gain some insight into yourself.

Did you miss this bit

this is tedious. believe what you want to believe. your eyes cannot resolve the fact that the earth has cuirvature so do you assume it is flat? likewise your eyes are picking up scattered sunlight from the air particles above you. that doesn't mean the sky is blue though. for example, today the sky is grey as a result of blanket cloud coverage.

if the sky was blue then we would not be able to observe anything white such as snow as the white sunlight would be filtered. the fact we can observe white matter such as snow indicates that white light is coming from the sun and the blue light is what is scattered from the atmosphere.

perhaps you think the atmosphere is the sky. I don't. I understand the sky to be the celestial dome.

I am also not sure why you think it is relevant to be personal about it. The internet is full of opinions and in this case I have backed up that with physical evidence and laws.

the sky is not blue

it appears I am not alone in this thinking

Actually, I did not post in this thread until you made a very thinly veiled reference to me. Now you may see this as arguing because you cannot get your head around what is being discussed, but the sky is black. It always has been black and always will be black. Your attempt to claim it is blue is weird considering you have even said it is red. Perhaps you can explain how the sky can be both blue and red at the same time?

What makes you think the Earth is not flat? Your eyes can’t resolve the curvature of the Earth below around 10 miles altitude. I doubt you have been that high so perhaps you can explain on what grounds you can say the Earth isn’t flat? You are dismissive of physics so we can’t use that discipline to validate the Earth is an oblate spheroid. You’ Re arguing for the sake of arguing. That is all.

Do you think Rainbows exist as well? That is light scattering off water droplets in the atmosphere. The rainbow isn’t really there either just like the blue sky isn’t there.

I googled "blue and red sky" and lo and behold, a miriad of images of blue and red skies appeared!

Here is one:

http://canitbesaturdaynow.com/dived/single/blue_red_sky/

Strangely, none of the images were of a black sky.

I'm off out now, the sun is out, the sky is blue, it's beautiful and so I will guess that you will go and shout at the sky "You are black!"

Happy arguing Damien! Hope the sky doesn't get angry with your absurd arguments and rain on you (or worse).

That's twice you've accepted the sky is red. So when asked if the sky was blue I was correct to say no. I can also guarantee at some point in the next 24 hours you will see a black sky, unless of course you're at the pole (hope springs eternal)