I know they occasionally hold the odd Cardiff Blues rugby game there, and Cardiff RFC still play there, but I doubt they get more than a couple of thousand people in there every fortnight.
That must be prime land under that ground for some sort of redevelopment, it certainly isn't being used to its full potential at the moment.
How long can this go on for?
As long as Cardiff Athletic's club want it to. There are also covenants on the land preventing it being used for standard commercial or residential development.
I thought the Blues were headed back there next year anyway, and just playing a handful of games at City stadium ?
The way they are currently managed and losing players they could play on the bowling green at CAP and still not fill it.
I think this is a case of wait and see with the move back home. There is no doubt the club are in freefall and what is worse it is totally self inflicted, as a result a number of rumours are wildly circulating.
Care to summarise some of the rumours?
well yes, but there isn't a will on all sides and courts will support the covenant in those cases.
The only thing council ever wanted from the site (Mill Stad & CAP) was to make sure it was fit for a Champions League final, now that the Convention Centre is mooted for Wood St, they will leave CAP alone, they don't need it. They will still want the football match but the parameters have changed.
As for the rumours re its future use, they are numerous and it is best summed up by saying rule no city location out - from existing sports areas to brown and green field areas, its all up for grabs on the great rumour mill.
% star hotels and the airport are the current reasons we don't get the big footy gigs from uefa.
The corporate and hoi poloi holding pen that was previously seen as a barrier was overcome b y the plans to use the castle a la the ryder cup gig.
Eric, thanks for some clarification. That is interesting, it has been suggested on several occasions that the Council saw CAP as the missing piece of the jigsaw as far as the soccer was concerned.
I'm not sure that's entirely correct regarding uefa. I'm pretty sure uefa dismissed the castle idea as the top grass in European football may have got wet walking across the road to the stadium. The little dears
I'm not really sure what you are trying to say. UEFA have said quite openly that they will not use MS for a champions league final or Europa Cup Final as long as their representatives have to walk across the road. The Castle is a non starter. I care not what WG think as frankly they have little or no involvement in this other than if it ever came off, the first minister would be all over it like a rash, the sycophants that they are.
apologies I cannot edit the former post.
I think you refer to the delegation from UEFA last year. They did stress that CWL had a 'tiny' terminal and that any final would therefore be a heathrow operation. The best WG could muster was that Bham and BRS were both within two hours drive. UEFa also stressed that they would not pay more than the going market rate for hotels and that Cardiff had a history of increasing hotel rates on big sporting occassions. Finally, whilst they appreciated the effort of staging the VIP village in coopers field, the fact it was not adjacent to the stadium meant it contradicted UEFAs rules on hosting finals in category 4 stadia
see attached from UEFA
the best thing we can do though is pretend we still have a chancesee definitions 2.2
of course UEFA have the authority to overrule this definition however given that they were not impressed with the overall infrastructure of Cardiff it is very unlikely that the prescious little darlings with ever come to wales. Its a shame, the Millennium Stadium is famous throughout the world as a football stadium and it would be a major boost to further enhance that reputation by hosting the UEFA Champions league final. it would give much needed revenue to the FAW as well.
but it will never happen, not as long as there is no Exclusive VIP area within the confines of the stadium
i think its good that WG are attempting this sort of thing. however, consideration must be given to the fact that just like our AM's, the UEFA delegation (Platini aside) are a self serving bunch of parasites who don't have the interest of the game at heart but the interest of the delegation. why else do you need an exclusive VIP area? Football should be about the fans and not about shady handshakes and nefarious business deals - we have rugby for that
Oh yes, hotel prices wouldn't be an issue either as the hotels would be contracted in advance and the bid wouldn't be successful unless the hotels agree to reasonable prices i.e. sign here at these prices and we'll bring the Champs League to Cardiff. If you don't, we won't bring it.
I'd love to see plans for this covered walkway. How long would the roads need to be closed for to set it up and take it down again?
The only bit on a road would have involved crossing the road by the pub bit of the Holiday Inn. That could be done in a few hours. The rest would have been in the park with no disruption to traffic.
How far is it from coopers field to the VIP seats
CAPITALL, starting a dangerous game arguing with the JANTRA, but fair play you sum it up nicely.
Not really Eric, I just cut out the middle man. Why discuss whether wg can influence the decision when it's bugger all to do with them
To be fair to Jantra, Europe is a massive place with scores of cities that are more synonymous with football than Cardiff and haven't had a major European final.
We just don't deserve it, yet.
If Wales can qualify for a tournament or cardiff at the very least have a premier league team then we'd have a chance.
Yes we have a good stadium, but that isn't enough.
the ataturk stadium, its an ok stadium - never gtreat with an athletics track for footy in my book - in a great city but gets hammered by fans because its on the edge of istanbul, some 20 plus odd miles from the city centre and is a bugger to get to not being on the public transport system. Recallboth sets of fans moaned at 2005 about the location and getting to it.
without doubt, palms of silver are often crossed for big football decisions.
for a fan, cardiff is hard to beat having been to many around europe.
Can anyone quantify how much money this soccer match would bring in for the city? Would it equate to a Six Nations game like the French match a few weeks back?
I presume if it gets the match it won't see another for what, 20 years minimum?
Couldn't the arms park be used as a temporary VIP area?
Mr Sepp blatter and co if you bring the champions league final, UEFA cup or European cup to cardiff i promise to buy you a gorgeous Cadwaladers ice cream.
Apparently there vanilla ice cream had a secret recipe, reputedly including the addition of 6lbs of "shan't tell you" and "a great deal of love and care."
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