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I guess the suggestion is that people travelling to the airport from their home city might be dropped off by a friend or relative, or drive and park up, whereas people who land in a foreign country are more likely to have to fend for themselves on public transport.

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Some new flights announced.

Barbados and Dusseldorf

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-news/first-ever-cardiff-airport-barbados-6424494

Edit : Actually, wasn't the Dusseldorf one already announced ? Hopefully it'll end up being more than once a week as it's clearly just aimed at people going on holiday for a week at the moment.

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Guys, 'AIRPORTS OF THE WORLD' magazine on sale today has Cardiff Airport as it's main feature, there's a 5 page special on the airport....good peice actually, it's in all WHSMITH's....

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The Dragon awakes!



Do you reckon they needed to photoshop that image to get three planes at the airport at the same time!?!

Looks good though.

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Perhaps they used Flight simulator

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Let's hope this city never has flights to Malaysia.

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Wonder how much the assembly paid the magazine for front cover! HA

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Don't suppose anybody would want to scan the article to put on here?

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Cardiff Airport secures new airline to operate routes to Paris and Glasgow
20 Dec 2013 08:30
The publicly-owned airport has signed a deal with CityJet, following the announcement Flybe that it will be withdrawing these routes from January

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/cardiff-airport-secures-new-airline-6433899

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LocalResident
Cardiff Airport secures new airline to operate routes to Paris and Glasgow
20 Dec 2013 08:30
The publicly-owned airport has signed a deal with CityJet, following the announcement Flybe that it will be withdrawing these routes from January

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/cardiff-airport-secures-new-airline-6433899


That's very good news. It also mentions routes to Edinburgh and Jersey in the summer. With it being a new airline for the airport (I think at least), hopefully it might result in one or two other routes being added as well.

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yeah, i was thinking that exactly!

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flew in to Cardiff from Lyon direct yesterday - everything went well on time and the luggage was quick as was going throught the automatic customs. They have certainly spruced up the arrivals air side - looking good lets hope more passangers will see it !

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Excellent news that City Jet are taking over FlyBe flights (and adding some new ones). The only thing that worries me slightly is that AirFrance have just announced the sale of City Jet to some German company. I dont know if this will affect the SkyTeam status?

I wonder if we could see a Cardiff to London City connection???

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Tall Smurf
Excellent news that City Jet are taking over FlyBe flights (and adding some new ones). The only thing that worries me slightly is that AirFrance have just announced the sale of City Jet to some German company. I dont know if this will affect the SkyTeam status?

I wonder if we could see a Cardiff to London City connection???]/b]


we've got one already, its the GWML. by the time you drove the half hour there, checked in, passed through security, you'd be at Swindon on the GWML.

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Jantra
Tall Smurf
Excellent news that City Jet are taking over FlyBe flights (and adding some new ones). The only thing that worries me slightly is that AirFrance have just announced the sale of City Jet to some German company. I dont know if this will affect the SkyTeam status?

I wonder if we could see a Cardiff to London City connection???]/b]


we've got one already, its the GWML. by the time you drove the half hour there, checked in, passed through security, you'd be at Swindon on the GWML.


Air Wales had a go at a CWL - LCY route and it failed. With electrification and crossrail the business case will become even weaker.

At best there's very little difference between the rail and air. If we want to go from home in Cardiff to central London we're looking at the following times.

AIR
Taxi to airport = 30mins (at best)
Arrive at terminal to take off = 45mins (at best)
Take-off to set foot in arrivals = 50mins (using old air wales dep/arr times)
LCY DLR to DLR station closest to central London = 22mins (Bank)
Best case scenario = 2hr 27min

TRAIN
Taxi to station = 15mins (at best)
Arrive at station to departure = 5mins (at best)
Arrive at station = 128mins (at best)
Best case scenario = 2hr 28mins

If you're in central Cardiff then you can knock 15mins off the train time, if you miss the DLR at LCY you can add another 10mins to the air time.

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Tall Smurf
Excellent news that City Jet are taking over FlyBe flights (and adding some new ones). The only thing that worries me slightly is that AirFrance have just announced the sale of City Jet to some German company. I dont know if this will affect the SkyTeam status?

I wonder if we could see a Cardiff to London City connection???


Apparently they will remain in close commercial co-operation with Air France after the sale. Hopefully this will mean the flights retaining their AF numbers and the consequent benefits.

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I agree that there would only be limited benefit for direct CWL-LCY flights but I was thinking more of the onward connections using LCY as a hub to City Jet destinations worldwide.

On the negative side, I just realised that Paris flights are to Orly and not CDG. This does not make much difference for direct flights to Paris, but it does limit opportunities to connect to long distance flights.

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Good news, each new extra flight helps claw back those passengers that have been lost to Bristol over the years. Plus Rynair seem to be interested in running more flights if this is successful, so fingers crossed that it is.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-27420572

It's a start guys, but I think it's safe to say the airport is all the better for entering public ownership The rebound begins

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I am sure they got a very good deal to be at Cardiff and I wonder how any (possible) further expansion could affect there Bristol base.

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Such disappointing news.

If I'd maintained a list of destinations that I DIDN'T wish to see announced as a 'new' route from Cardiff, then Tenerife would certainly have been at the top of it.

For me, this is about as exciting an announcement as another Greggs opening on Queen St.

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Wizard
Such disappointing news.

If I'd maintained a list of destinations that I DIDN'T wish to see announced as a 'new' route from Cardiff, then Tenerife would certainly have been at the top of it.

For me, this is about as exciting an announcement as another Greggs opening on Queen St.


You have to assume though, that Ryanair will not want to be operating only one route out of an airport. If this is a success I'm sure there will be more to follow.

Perhaps the airport are offering it as a loss-leader

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They are testing the market presumably - and it gives them a cosh to beat Bristol with when it comes to negotiating landing charges.

Given the demographics of the airport catchment area Ryanair is probably a better fit for Cardiff than Easyjet would be. I still think Jet2 would be the best get. The seem to operate from airports and regions very similar to Cardiff.

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Could you say a bit more about that? Why is ryanair better suited to cardiff than easyjet?

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Ryanair's business model is generally more geared to headline dirt cheap fares coupled with (invariably but not always) flying to more peripheral airports . Ryanair don't tend to fly into the main airports of a given city, but choose instead to go for airports which are often 'secondary' city airports (eg they don't fly into Barcelona but fly into Girona). These airports are up to a two hour drive away from the cities. They therefore reap lower landing charges which can feed through to cheaper fares.

Passengers choosing Ryanair are more likely to go out of their way to travel to obscure airports in less accessible areas(such as Cardiff). The lower fares tend to appeal to the more cost conscious passenger (ie those with less to spend - which might suit the poorer pockets of the catchment area around Cardiff).

IMO, Easyjet is a far superior outfit to Ryanair, but Ryanair are a more realistic target for Cardiff airport.

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Me
Could you say a bit more about that? Why is ryanair better suited to cardiff than easyjet?


Wizard said it for me!

Like him I'm more an Easyjet person than a Ryanair one but the bulk of the airport's business has always involved price-sensitive cutsomers.

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Getting passenger numbers to take off is top priority for Cardiff Airport boss

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-news/getting-passenger-numbers-take-top-7132537

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Looking at their website the flight is available from November for about £40 each way.

You'd struggle to get to London for less than that most of the time.

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http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/archive/permalink/the_cardiff_giant

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Does Ryanair coming to Cardiff mean that Cardiff will be renamed to London Cardiff like London Oxford etc?

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Commuter87
Getting passenger numbers to take off is top priority for Cardiff Airport boss

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-news/getting-passenger-numbers-take-top-7132537


On becoming chief executive, Mr Horne told his audience, his priority was to arrest the decline which had been going on for five years.

“It had gone from 2.7m passengers to below a million.

“So, the first priority was to talk to our existing customers, the airlines, and give them the confidence that decline wasn’t going to continue and there was an opportunity for them, going forward, which was vitally important.”


I hope that's a mistake on Western Mail's part and not the chief executive!

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Bizarrely, Mr Horne , who I have met, was the bloke in charge at Cardiff during the few years Bristol got its act together and pissed all over Cardiff. And yet he's now , again, in charge. Isn't that like giving the captain of the Titanic a life saving role. To mix metaphors, it's like rewarding the person who was asleep at the wheel. I don't want to have a go Mr Horne personally, but some explanation I think is required

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URBANO
Bizarrely, Mr Horne , who I have met, was the bloke in charge at Cardiff during the few years Bristol got its act together and pissed all over Cardiff. And yet he's now , again, in charge. Isn't that like giving the captain of the Titanic a life saving role. To mix metaphors, it's like rewarding the person who was asleep at the wheel. I don't want to have a go Mr Horne personally, but some explanation I think is required


The welsh government was involved in appoin ting the ceo

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Jon Horne ran CWL until 2007 when passenger numbers were at their peak of 2,111,148, the highest they've been.

He seems like a good choice to me.

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Simon_SW17
Jon Horne ran CWL until 2007 when passenger numbers were at their peak of 2,111,148, the highest they've been.

He seems like a good choice to me.



Agreed. And its not as though he is a one man band without any assistance/board etc. Like the Council, it doesn't all fall with Phil Bale - there's the cabinet and, in the Council, the specialist employees.

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But its precisely during that period that Bristol pissed over Cardiff......

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Just his luck that the airport did even worse without him.

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Because of the march Bristol had stolen when he was at the Cardiff wheel.

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I'm surprised they re-hired him, and you could argue that he had the opportunity to change things whilst in he had influence and failed to do so (e.g. Ryanair leaving, landing charges, lack of express buses) although on some level it was probably inevitable from 1997 onwards that Bristol would become the largest airport in the region as this was when much of the framework that allowed Bristol to dominate took place. Essentially before Jon Horne could do that much about it e.g. construction of new terminal (1997-2000) which was pivotal in attracting Go, and subsequently Easyjet.

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It seems that CWL is flying in the right direction and that passenger numbers are taking off.
I expect to hit new heights in next two years

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Slim Bola
It seems that CWL is flying in the right direction and that passenger numbers are taking off.
I expect to hit new heights in next two years


Getting back to two million is totaly dependent on persuading a low-cost carrier to base one or more aircraft at the airport. The airport are doing the right things to make that happen - so we'll see.

Personally I think the range of destinations is more important than the raw passenger numbers. Duplicating the Bristol offer is fine but even better would be get links to Middle East and American hub airports.

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